In this practical, fast-paced discussion, Dr. Justin Marchegiani and guest Rob Edwards discuss stubborn candida and other fungal issues and how to tackle them from both directions: cleaning up the environment and skin (outside-in) while correcting gut and metabolic drivers (inside-out).
They clarify the fungus family tree (yeasts vs. molds), explain why humidity, sugar, antibiotics/steroids, and toxin burden keep fungi thriving, and outline step-by-step protocols for skin, nails, groin, scalp, and chronic sinuses.
Clinically, they stress sequencing (foundations first, antifungals last), not going ultra-low-carb during kill phases (the “cheese for the mousetrap”), and expecting co-infections (yeast + SIBO + parasites).
Testing helps (GI-MAP, OAT markers like D-arabinitol), but symptoms and exam sites often drive action even when labs miss yeast.
[00:00] Scope & approach: internal candida + external fungal problems need inside-out & outside-in treatment.
[00:45] Fungus 101: Candida (unicellular) vs molds (multicellular: Aspergillus, Penicillium); common sites—gut, mouth, vagina, skin/scalp/nails/groin.
[03:03] Environment matters: humidity fuels mold. Use dehumidifiers (>50% avg humidity), air filtration, fix leaks/condensation (watch mini-splits/attics).
[05:19] AC & home hygiene: clean lines/pans with diluted vinegar or peroxide; bubbling = oxidation of growth.
[06:00] Topical mainstay: 10% sulfur soap + tea tree “3-minute rule”; after workouts, rinse + re-lather and keep areas dry (moisture-wicking briefs).
[07:14] Toenails: weekly vinegar + tea tree soaks (20–30 min), file thick nails to reduce keratin debris, apply topicals 2–3×/day (undecylenic acid, keratolytics, oregano); consistency is everything.
[11:48] Diet drivers: cut sugars, refined carbs, alcohol; stubborn signs include sweet cravings, itchy/flaky skin, brain fog (acetaldehyde).
[12:59] Thyroid link: candida overgrowth may aggravate autoimmunity (Hashimoto’s); manage as part of thyroid care.
[14:14] Testing that helps (but isn’t absolute): GI-MAP may miss yeast; OAT (e.g., D-arabinitol, tartaric acid, 3-oxoglutaric) adds functional clues; clinical signs can outweigh negative labs.
[18:16] Internal antifungals (used after foundations): undecylenic acid, caprylic acid, oil of oregano, berberine, tea tree, garlic; rotate and dose adequately.
[18:45] Strategy nuance: during kill, don’t go ultra-low-carb—a bit of whole-food carbs = “cheese” that brings yeast to the “mousetrap” (herbals).
[19:32] Expect stacks: yeast often coexists with SIBO/parasites; tests are data points, not the whole story.
[20:40] Laundry tip: washing soda/baking soda pre-soak can mechanically disrupt fungi in fabrics and neutralize odors.
[22:17] Takeaway: pair environmental control + topical discipline with diet fixes and staged internal antimicrobials; be patient—skin/nails often need 1–3 months.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: [00:00:00] Hey guys, it's Dr. Justin Marjani. Welcome to the Beyond Wellness Radio podcast. Feel free and head over to justin health.com. We have all of our podcast transcriptions there, as well as video series on different health topics ranging from thyroid to hormones, ketogenic diets, and gluten. While you're there, you can also schedule a consult with myself, Dr.
J, and or our colleagues and staff to help dive into any pressing health issues you really wanna get to the root cause on. Again, if you enjoy the podcast, feel free and share the information with friends or family. And enjoy the show. And we are live. It's at the Jay in the house with Rob Edwards. Today we're gonna be talking about fungus, stubborn candida, stubborn fungus that could be impacting your health.
I'm gonna go over the top signs and symptoms. And again, every time we talk about this, I'm always gonna try to nuance the topic, bring something different, bring a different approach. I'm always working with patients that have different issues and so I'll try to give you, the top clinical perspective that I see working with patients.
All right, Rob, how we doing, man? Good. Welcome to the show.
Rob Edwards: Good. Great topic. Something that I've been dealing with [00:01:00] before. Fungal overgrowth. Yeah. These kind of things are no fun. They stick around, they don't like to go away.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. Let's just first start off with different types of fungus, right? So functional medicine, a lot of times we're dealing with internal stuff, whether it's fungal overgrowth, so we have fungus is like a big umbrella.
And then we have different types of fungus. So we have we have candida type of fungus, we have different kinds of candida, whether it's candida, albicans is the most common kind of candida. Then we have candida Cru and candida rota, toa. And then we have other kinds of, whether it's different types of molds that are technically in that fungus.
Camp, whether it's aspergillus or penicillium. And then we have topical fungus on the skin as well, whether it's fungal nails or whether it's dandruff in the scalp, Subha dermatitis. Whether it's in the growing area which is gonna be tit auraura. Tinia Crura is gonna be more, I think in the jock tinia capita is gonna be the scalp and then you're gonna have your toenail fungus as well.
And then also fungus on the skin, which is gonna be tinia S [00:02:00] color. And that kinda whitening, pigmented kinda lightning of the skin with that. So there's all different approaches that we can do topically as well as internally. And then obviously the right diet changes that should be made too.
So all those things need to be looked at.
Rob Edwards: We also have dandruff as well. That can happen. Like when your hair, those kind of things. Yeah, like noticing where candida typically shows up, it can be present in the gut, the mouth vagina, like in small amounts, but can never grow in your microbiome.
That's a part of what disrupts things. Overuse of antibiotics, sugar, stress, a lot of things that we'll dive into in terms of that can make that happen. But yeah that's an overview of what fungus is. And I kinda like how it happens some of those pieces of how it happens.
One of the big things, my understanding of course, is the high sugar, refined carb diets, things of that nature. Antibiotic overuse or stereo steroid overuse which can wipe out the protective bacterial and immune defenses inside the body. Burdens of toxins can do that, that weaken the immune system.
And those are some of the things off the gate in terms of what gets, comes inside of our gut or what we're dealing with inside of our [00:03:00] small intestine.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: A hundred percent. So when we look at mold, right? So there's different subcategories, right? Mold is a subcategory of fungus, right? Mold is multicellular.
So multicellular, right? Typically you need moist, damp environments from mold to grow, right? And then candida is gonna be unicellular, right? So it's gonna be different. So unicellular versus. Multicellular. And so fungus is kinda like the kingdom. It's the bigger umbrella. So yeast, molds, all those things. Fungus is gonna be under that as well.
So fungus can be single like candida. But it can also be multi mold, tend to be more multicellular. So I remember mold. For m Multicellular M that's how I remember it. So in general when we look at mold in the environment, that's something that needs moisture, that's gonna need lots of particles of mold in the air.
And so things like air filtration, dehumidifiers, making sure your water's not leaking, those kind of things are how you get mold down in the environment. So dehumidifier number one, air filtration, number two, [00:04:00] and then making sure the. There's no excess mold, an excess water from leaks and such. But usually when most people they're aware of leaks, it's gonna be usually the high humidity that's gonna do it, right?
So if you're in a high humidity environment, that's a big thing. I just tell patients, just go to chat, GPT, say, Hey, here's my zip code. Gimme the average humidity for each month of the year. And if you have a month where you're above 50% on average, let's say mid 50 or above, you probably need a dehumidifier.
If you're above 60 or 70 at all, you probably need a dehumidifier for a couple months outta the year. So that's a good, quick little, tip should I get a dehumidifier? Run that through. That'll give you a pretty good way to assess that outta the gate.
Rob Edwards: Go ahead. Go ahead, man. I was check another place that you can find this stuff.
So those old or the newer air conditioners that people put inside of their houses, one of the things that we actually noticed inside of our hose that kind of, because you have to like, you have to bring that hose where the water line is coming in inside the house. And actually we were following parts of the attic and following parts of the attic.
That condensation rise, we have some black mold, in those kinda areas where that [00:05:00] lining is going. So a lot of people forget about those newer air conditioners that they're install installing inside of homes especially that haven't had if you go to like capes for example, in the Northeast, capes are normal.
They finally finish out a basement, the May basement, and maybe they draw the line.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, and it's good if you are using like a, I think you're talking about a mini split. It's good to get those inspected at least once or twice a year and really ask someone, Hey, I really want you to check for mold. And if you have that line in there, what you can do is you can put some diluted, you can put some straight vinegar, diluted vinegar, or even some peroxide.
You could put some diluted peroxide down there, and that will help knock that out and just, open it up, give it a good wipe down with some diluted vinegar. Or get some gloves and put some peroxide in a microfiber and just get everything wiped down or give it a little spray.
The thing about the peroxide, it'll start to bubble when it's oxidizing mold, and so it just spray it a little bit. If you see bubbling, then you could start to focus in more, but that's a good thing to just to be on top of your environment, right? Because if you're in a chronically moldy environment, it's possible that could transmit to your skin.
It's possible. You could see, especially, you see it more with locker rooms, right? Walking around in chronic moist environments, you [00:06:00] get toenail fungus, but you could potentially get. Skin issues with being in a chronic, moist, and moldy environment. So be on top of that. Now with skin, I always recommend the sulfur soap, 10% with tea tree oil, sulfur soap has been in the scientific literature for over a hundred years.
Especially with tea tree, you lather that up, put it on your skin, leave it on for at least three minutes. That's very helpful. If you have jockish, you have anything on the skin tin s color on the scalp. That's wonderful. So those are good approaches in regards to dealing with topical fungus. But again, the question is the topical fungus on your skin?
An outgrowth of what's happening in your gut due to excess sugar, processed carbohydrate, gluten maybe even antibiotic rebound overgrowth. So is it that or is it something from the environment? So I always just say it. Maybe it's both. That way we don't miss one or the other.
Rob Edwards: Yeah, things that's the best way to approach outside in and inside out approach to make sure that we're not missing anything.
Because I think it's very easy for people to think I need to go through this whole entire protocol to get rid of something and it's really. Environmental that you're being exposed a day to day [00:07:00] basis. And even if you're inside of those certain areas geographically that tend to, be more moldy or tend to be more fungi infested, let's say
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: a hundred percent.
So when we look at mold or look at ye. We got toenail fungus. Toenail fungus can be very difficult because we don't have a lot of blood flow to the toenails. And so when we deal with toenail fungus, we want to do a soap couple times a week. I recommend, I'll give you my link here, Justin health.com/fungus is the link.
Lemme just double check it. And I have an Amazon kind of redirect place where I have some products that I, I. Used in particular. So in that section here, you're gonna see my foot basin. So we do a foot soak, we'll do a cup of apple cider vinegar, right? Or sorry, white vinegar. And then we'll do my tea tree oil, foot soak.
And we'll put one to two tablespoons of that heaping tablespoons with a eight ounces a cup of essentially white vinegar, organic. Let your feet soak for 20 or 30 minutes. That's very helpful. And then topically. Couple things you can do. I like carousel, which is interesting. It's a glycolic acid [00:08:00] compound that can help.
This product right here is nice fo cure. It's a, this is an oleic acid one. There's one that's also an oil level oregano one. Those are nice. When you do topicals on toenails, you really have to be on at least two to three times a day. You're constantly fighting a war with toenail fungus, and if you're not constantly knocking it back a couple times a day, it's gonna win.
And so the toenail, the fungus eats the keratinocytes, it eats the protein on the nail, and then you get what's called as these. Cytes. These are like the fungal cells. They eat the keratin, right? And they create fungal debris, or I should say keratin debris. Everyone sees keratin debris. They know what it is.
It's when that nail starts to yellow and get thicker. It's that mold has come in or that fungus has come in and eaten the keratin, eaten the protein, and you have that debris as the byproduct. And so a couple things you can do is you can get one of these really good nail files. I recommend one of these.
I actually will file my fingers with 'em. I won't even cut my nails. I'll just go like this and just smooth it out. [00:09:00] But you can do this on your nail. So let's say your nail's really thick. You can come right across it and just smooth it out. And that's helpful because that keratin debris is thick. And so when you apply a topical here like this.
Now it has to penetrate much deeper to get to where the fungus is hiding. And so by smoothing it out a little bit, it allows that better penetration. So that's a good, kinda like little clinical pearl if you will. Little hat. So soaking is great with the vinegar. And then topicals two to three times a day is very helpful and you gotta stay with it 'cause you lose a couple days.
It's. The last month just didn't even exist, right? So you really gotta be on top of it. And again, I'll put all the links in that Justin health.com/fungus section. That's great. Also on there I have the Wonder bomb, which I used to, which is a really good botanical topical, let's say you have cracked heels or a fungus in the skin, that could be great to use as well.
And then I have my sulfur soap with the tea tree on there, which is wonderful. So those are a couple of really good options. There's more strategies, but that's just pretty good for the listeners for now, when you're dealing with topical fungus, either on the [00:10:00] foot. The toe, Tia, versa, color on the skin, and then also on the scalp.
So that kind of just at least gives you some good options for the topical stuff, the outside stuff.
Rob Edwards: Yeah. And I think that's a, that's the big key point. And that's something that I've battled before, like with not only toenail, but also like the jock. And it just takes forever. It seems like it takes forever, but if you don't stick with it, you're gonna lose the battle and then you're gonna go back and forth.
It's kinda gonna mentally enter into it and be like, Hey, we're gonna defeat this thing. We're gonna do this over the next. One to three months and if you stick with it, you're gonna start to see the results, but,
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. And when it comes to jock, like you really gotta hit that tea.
The sulfur soap with the tea tree in there at least once a day, maybe twice a day if you're doing a lot of sweating. As soon as you finish sweating as soon as you finish your workout, I would probably say do a little rinse off sulfur soap tea tree and at least change your shorts right and have a good like wicking kind of boxer brief material that really pulls that moisture off because fungus loves moisture and so the more you can get that area drier and get nice clean shorts on there, you'll be in better shape.
Yeah,
Rob Edwards: a hundred percent.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, but you [00:11:00] gotta let it sit on there for a couple of minutes. And then sometimes you may wanna before bed do that. Wonder bomb topical on that area as well. But this, the sulfur with the tea tree does work very good. Just you may wanna let it lather up, sit on there longer. I recommend get your oral B two brush, so it has got a three minute timer on it.
Brush take three minutes. That kind of tells you, okay, three minutes is up and then you can go rinse things off. So that's a good option there.
Rob Edwards: Yeah. Yeah, a hundred percent.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So let's talk about diet. What are the big foods that you see your patients eating that they, it's clear they have fungal overgrowth.
And look at these dietary connections. What are
Rob Edwards: they? A hundred percent. We're always gonna be talking about sugars. We're gonna be, talk about refined carbs, we're gonna be talking about alcohol. All the things that kind of over absorb that, that Candida likes to eat. The candida likes to, to absorb.
And so that's really the first thing that we always look at is kinda okay, what are the initial signs and symptoms? And I always see like when somebody typically has. And overgrowth fungal wise, especially candida or otherwise. They tend to also have some other things that come along with that I've noticed at least.
Either they have some like insulin resistance issues, they may have some weight gain issues that are happening as well in addition to it. It [00:12:00] can happen obviously to anybody, but I tend to see those things. But those are the top three things that we try to clean out. The diet, alcohol, refined carbs, cutting the sugars right, that are all gonna feed those things.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. And when it comes to candida we have all the skin stuff, we have the irritation, we have the itchiness, we have the flakiness. When it comes to how you feel, you could be having lots of cravings. These are stubborn signs of candida, lots of cravings, lots of sweet cravings. It could also be brain fog, right?
Brain fog's a big one, candida ferment acid, aldehyde. And that can make you feel foggy. It can make you feel just not quite clear in your thinking. And obviously candida can also, there's some data with candida overgrowth impacting your thyroid, potentially increasing autoimmunity and negatively impacting your thyroid.
That's a real thing that I see with patients. And anytime we have Hashimoto's, I'm always looking at making sure we're on top of candida. 'cause that could be impacting the thyroid,
Rob Edwards: any kind of infections inside the gut, and so that's one of the ones tends to be around one of the things too, because there's barriers to the gut.
And if you've had long-term infections, even [00:13:00] sometimes whenever we've looked at the GI map at the beginning, yeah, maybe we kept some sort of candida, but the more and more we actually treat a person that Candida can look like it has gone up. I think part of that's 'cause you're breaking up biofilms.
You're starting to actually get things to move inside of the gut. And now can candida presents itself a little bit better or more, more available to see? But a hundred percent, anytime that I see Candida though, I tend to assume that they're gonna have some other overgrowths inside of their gut. It's beyond just candida.
I always tell people the gut is a wet a wet dark a wet and dark place, and anything that's wet and dark and warm like you go out to Florida and you pull up a border that's laying on the grass, you're gonna not just see one kind of parasite. You're not gonna see a couple warms. You're not gonna just see one thing.
You're gonna see multiple different life forms that are actually starting to permeate inside of the gut or inside of that the area.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: A hundred percent. Now, when we do for testing and we look at testing and we try to assess what the heck is actually going on, couple things that we will utilize or do, right?
Big one we'll do is the GM map, but it can miss a lot of. Yeast and a lot of candida, right? It can. Now, if I [00:14:00] see anything on the GI map with candida at all, even if it's a low level, I'm thinking there's definitely a problem. But I tell patients the hierarchy is I look at clinical science and symptoms first.
Just because you have toenail fungus does not necessarily mean you have candida in your body. Just because toenail fungus is one of those things that's common from just, walking around on sandals gym floor tho, you can get it more topical and it may not be a big sign of what's happening inside, but we still wanna treat it.
And we still look deeper if we have it on your skin or if we have chronic jockish or athlete's foot or vaginal yeast stuff. Anything more internal. I'm thinking, yeah, that's a sign that something is deeper inside. Chronic subha dermatitis or dandruff. Yeah, we're gonna treat it no matter what. Oh, I mentioned thrush.
Oral thrush, that's the white coating in your mouth. I didn't talk about that. That's another can design. And again, we may gargle 3% or diluted hydrogen peroxide on that for 20, 30 seconds. Maybe some tongue scraping, a really good toothpaste that's gonna have maybe some silver or peppermint or some baking soda.
Those are all really great things to address thrush internally. But [00:15:00] again, we're gonna look, you we're gonna let those clinical signs tell us if we should go in. Yeah, independent of what labs say internally. So the GI map can be helpful, may not be positive, could still be there. Organic acids are great because we can look at Diose or Dera, ETOL, which is great for candida.
We can look at tartaric acid, three eRx, a bunch of markers we can look at. That'll tell us if we have candida in the gut, in the organic acid tells us via urinary metabolites.
Rob Edwards: Yeah. Yeah. I like to put them mostly both together. The GI and the O together, the organic acids together gives you a little bit more of a bigger picture.
But to your point, if I ever seen somebody that has. Toenail fungus, that's one thing. But then if I also see extra signs of gut, gut gut issues, or if I start to see issues with sinuses and, multiple different areas in their body, maybe they have jockish in addition and maybe they have some Tania or they have some dandruff going on in their hair.
I'm starting to think that it's probably not always, but probably gonna be some kind of internal external approach, not just the external approach.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And I didn't even mention chronic sinusitis. That could be fungal in origin, there could be bacteria as well. [00:16:00] Again, I like using X layer. This is a great one.
This is XLE more for allergy. This is more capsicum in aloe in it, but it does have grapefruit, which is antifungal. If there's more chronic fungus in there, we'll use the rescue line of XLE because it has PATCO in there. It has parsley, it has tea tree, it has oil of oregano, and it has, it has that, what's that leaf that, see here eucalyptus the leaf that pandas eat. Yeah. So those are like six in that one. So those are great 'cause there's a little bit more antifungal antibacterial in there. So it's got all of that. And so this one's still good 'cause it has grapefruit and the regular green one's still good 'cause it's got grapefruit, so it's still good.
But if it's stronger, cutely, you can use the rescue as well. And then we'll flush it out with some saline. But that's great. If you have chronic sinusitis, I always assume there could be some candida going on up there.
Rob Edwards: Yeah, and that's such an easy approach too. It's it's very easy to do that versus.
Tried to 'cause a lot of people will just live with it, right? It's like the years and years and years. Years they think I just have sinus infections. It's the way that it is. It's like oftentimes there's an overgrowth happening that might have started in the gut and is proliferating throughout the rest of your [00:17:00] body and you start to get these congestive issues going on inside of that.
But yeah, I like to use what you talked about. Caprylic acid is another one from coconut. And then berberine I know has a little bit of, clinical data on that. And then so does black walnut. Whole,
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: yeah. From an herbal standpoint. So now we're talking about things internally. Yeah. On sonic acid, caprylic acid.
Oil of oregano, high dose any of the berberine are gonna be excellent. Tea tree oil, very good. And again, the dose tends to matter. And so in my line I'll use GCL five and six, which I have party arco and oil of oregano, and I'll do lennic acid, but I always deal with yeast and candida last, and I always try to deal with everything topically and all the dietary stuff first, right in my six hour protocol.
The fourth hour is what we remove. And in that removal, candidas always last. So I always try to set the environment up to succeed. Because if you starve out the reason why it's there, then when we start to kill it, I find that you just do better. And I also find that when we do killing, we actually don't wanna be super low carb when we do killing.
It's like, how? How does a mouse trap work? [00:18:00] Does a mouse trap work in and of itself? Or is it the cheese that helps it work? Yeah. And then those people see the cheese kind of helps it, right? So the cheese in this analogy is gonna be the carbohydrate. Now we may just do more of it, more of natural sources, but maybe not a bunch of processed stuff.
But that's gonna help the mousetrap work. And the mousetrap in this analogy is gonna be the herbals, right? So we'll use different herbals, like I mentioned. And then we will rotate in different things and a lot of times, candida, this is the thing most patients think of, right? They see the videos like this, they're gonna think, oh, my problem's candida, and maybe I have a lot of Candida signs and symptoms.
That's very possible. But also you could be open to the fact that you could have fungal overgrow at the parasite and SIBO all at the same time. So you may. Have lots of other things. And the word that Dr. Ka, she always told me, he's you have the right to have more than one issue going on at the same time.
And so just be open to that. Yeah. Doctors do marketing, they do a video on this topic, right? Which is cool, but just be open to the fact there's other things going on.
Rob Edwards: And even if you just look at it in nature it's kinda obvious, like usually you never see one thing attacking a weak [00:19:00] plant, you never see one thing just doing right.
It's almost always multiple things. That's why I use that analogy of if something's wet, warm, and dark, like you're, you'll never find just one thing going on inside of there. So if I see candida, if I see parasites or I see something like that, if. I'm gonna make the assumption that they're carrying more than just one thing.
And it's hard because the test, a lot of people, I think, assume that the test is the holy grail. Once you take the test, now you know exactly what's going on and it's correct, no, that's just a data point. But what's another data point is what you tell me, what you're experiencing, what you're going through, what's showing up in your skin, and your gut and your body.
Those are all data points too. And it's easy to miss something if you only go by the test alone. And we just don't listen to the patients as a whole.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Correct. And also when it comes down to candida on your skin, be very mindful of your detergent and your laundry, right? Because you could have a lot of candida or fungus in your clothes.
And so I always recommend if you have, chronic skin stuff, whether it's jackets or on your skin go get some wash soda. [00:20:00] Wash soda is like baking soda, okay? But it's baking soda for your washing machine. And so take that product put it in your, your laundry, your washing machine.
Instead, a soak on it. Do a pre-soak or a soak on it. 15, 20 minutes, let your clothes soak in it. Baking soda, sodium bicarbonate. What it does is it actually crushes the mold or candida it like it's a crystalline structure that crushes it doesn't kill it, it crushes it. And so it's very nice 'cause it's gentle and it also pulls out odors and smells and stuff.
So it makes sure laundry smelled neutral. It pulls out the clean, it doesn't cover it up with scents and fragrances. So I love it. It's as natural as it could be.
Rob Edwards: Yeah, a hundred
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: percent. Yeah, if you guys, alright, so go ahead. Anything else you wanna close with here?
Rob Edwards: No, I think that's it. This was really our, we, before we got on the call we said, Hey, this is gonna be an in and out, where you gonna go in and out and just talk about this real quick?
But I think at the end of the day, it's really, I think there's a couple of principles to take away from this that your body will tell you a lot of what's going on with you, testing after the fact to prove some of that stuff out. Doesn't mean that we're totally convinced that's not, [00:21:00] that you don't have other things going on.
And then what we can do is start working and figuring out what is going on inside of your body from a consistent matter to try to get people better. And that's I think, the best way to approach any kind of fungal overgrowth inside the body.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Correct. And again, we see candida and fungal issues all the time.
Internal, external, and you can't treat it. There are ways you can address it. You gotta go inside out, but also it's. Okay to also go outside in as well, as long as we're doing both at the same time. I think that's great. Yeah. And if you guys wanna reach out to Rob Heritage Health dot LIFE, heritage Health Life, we'll put his link down below in the description and then myself, dr.
Jay justin health.com. We see patients worldwide, so if you want that support, there'll be links where you can reach out. And again, I put some of the recommended products in the description below. So in the notes you'll be able to see some of that. All right, guys. Hope you enjoyed today's video.
Anything else, Rob? That's it. Blessings, everybody.
Rob Edwards: Have a good day.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes, Andre, appreciate a life in, I like you to share as well, and love to see your comments in the description too. Take care y'all. See you. Bye.
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