Evan Brand:  Hey, not too much. How ya doin’?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Doin’ great. We don’t normally do these things on Tuesday but here we are.

Evan Brand:  Yes, sir. And you’re—you’re headed out of the country and so this is a timely time and your dedication is impressive to this podcast. We wanted to talk about travel and even if you’re not going internationally like you, what can you do if you’re on the go? If you’re a busy mom, you have a one-hour commute, you’re out, you’re in the car, you don’t wanna have to stop and pick up something that is maybe not the best choice, how do you still live a healthy, chemical-free, organic lifestyle if you’re on the go? So that’s hopefully what we can address today.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, great questions. Again, we’ll do anything for our listener, so again, I’m leaving, jumping on a plane here to go to Prague and then heading over to Croatia, right after that for a week or so, so looking forward to just reading some books, getting some R&R and repairing my adrenals as much as possible.

Evan Brand:  Absolutely.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So off the bat, you know, what are some simple strategies? Well, number one, if you’re traveling and it’s long flights and you don’t have good food options, obviously fasting can be a great option. Right? A little bit of intermittent fasting can be helpful, even if you’re like—may have blood sugar issues or adrenal issues, you could always bring a nice snack onboard. I actually got about 4 really good like smoked salmon packages at Whole Foods, like the 4-6oz packages—the Wild Cod Alaskan Sockeye. So I got 4 of those. I got some grass-fed beef jerky. I got some packages of nuts and things, and I also have a couple of different bars, like some of the KIND bars, the Nuts & Spices brand that has the—the 5g of—the 5 to 4g of sugar or less and the 10g of protein. Those are good and I’m also gonna bring some collagen, too, and be able to just mix it with some water and be able to down it. So there’s a lot of good strategies. Fasting is number one. Number two is good, clean water. That’s always helpful. The solution to pollution is dilution. And then easy, simple snacks that you can either get nutrition from and/or stabilize blood sugar.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, water’s the tough one for me. It’s always the most frustrating aspect of flying because due to all the security regulations, you have to pour out your water, so like when I went to Chico back in the spring, I had like a—like a gallon of spring water that I was still trying to chug because they wouldn’t let me bring it through security. And then they’ll resell it to you for 4 or 5 bucks a bottle on the other side. So if you are doing that, you just have to do your best. What’s actually pretty cool and maybe next time I travel I would do this, Berkey actually has a portable system now. I have the at-home Berkey but they have a Berkey—I think it’s called the Berkey Go or the Berkey Travel. Very small Berkey but it’s got the same filter and you could literally shove that in your backpack or your suitcase and you could go to a water fountain and filter on the go. I think that’d be amazing, and you’re not paying 5 bucks for a bottle of water that’s still in a plastic bottle.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I think that’s definitely great. That’s a really good option. Typically, you know, if I’m traveling a lot of time, you know, I—I’ll spend the 5 or 6 bucks and get the Evian or the Fiji just because it’s the high quality water with the minerals in there. The minerals are nice. You may lose that with the Berkey and such, so the minerals are really good. And then two, I’ll get the—like I fly Southwest a lot, big Southwest fan. I got a buddy pass with them so my wife and I go back and forth. Typically one of us fly free which is nice and what we’ll do is I’ll ask for like the—the Seagrams and I’ll get the sparkling water.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, that is good.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And I typically tell them, so sparkling water and then I tell them, “Give me the can, no ice.” Because the ice is made out of water that’s, you know, probably junky water. I doubt it’s filtered or has any purification to it so I’m like, “No water. Just give me the straw and I’ll drink out of the can.” And they just—they can’t help it because every—they give ice to everyone, right? It’s like an automatic kind of thing. So I do that a lot. That’s a really good option is the sparkling water in the can, no ice, for—for the free side of the fence, or just spend the 5 or 6 bucks and get a good high-quality water before you get on the plane.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I like Evian because of the minerals and I like Fiji.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, I was gonna say I think Southwest they—they’ll give you Deja Blue water. That’s their water that you can get for free as the can. That’s what I’ll ask for.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, yeah. You can get that, too.

Evan Brand:  I think it’s a good—I think it’s reverse osmosis water.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I mean, even if it is–

Evan Brand:  It’s not—I know it’s not distilled. It’s something—it’s something purification.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, and people—people knock reverse osmosis water but I mean, frankly I’d rather have a water that mineral devoid and clean than mineral devoid, or let’s say mineral rich if it—if it is even that, right? We’ll give it the benefit of the doubt and say it’s mineral rich but then full of crap.

Evan Brand: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right?

Evan Brand:  Pesticides.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Pesticides, chemicals–

Evan Brand:  Pharmaceutical drugs, there’s average of over a dozen if you look at Environmental Working Group, over a dozen chemicals in tap water.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Ton of things.

Evan Brand:  They’re not—they’re not trained I mean, that’s the thing. These municipal tap water companies, they’re only trained to remove condoms and poop out of the water that you flush.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  They’re not trained to remove chemicals and pharmaceuticals and pesticide residue and run off and somebody who threw their whole bottle of Xanax down the toilet. They’re not trained for that and they’re not filtering that.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, and also pre-show we were just talking about toxicity. We were reviewing one of the labs that we used, the toxicity profile they do, and we were seeing a whole bunch of Roundup or glyphosate in some of the—the children patients that you’re treating, and that’s just–

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  An epidemic because Roundup is being used everywhere. My neighbor just got a whole new lawn put in and then they—they did glyphosate or Roundup on everything. Now I’m getting a lawn put in as well, brand-new one and I said, “No Roundup”. Absolutely no chemicals, I’m just—they’re gonna do it the hard way, and just kinda scrape it really well, and then we’re using natural pesticides. We do like the probiotics-based pesticides and then some of the more natural-based fertilizers and then we use like some of the—like they put like some protozoa and some natural like nematodes and things that kinda help keep the environment in check that’s chemical-free.

Evan Brand:  That is so cool. Yeah, I mean, people have to realize there is a natural alternative or there was a natural alternative which was the only thing available until chemical industry came into play in the last 100 years or so.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And don’t get me wrong. Chemicals are more convenient in a lot of times, but the question is–

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  They also can contribute to disease and disease is not more convenient. Right?

Evan Brand:  Definitely not.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So that’s–

Evan Brand:  Definitely not.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s the issue that you fight and it’s just convenient, right? Farmers and a lot of these people that are doing this line of work.  They’ve been sold that pesticides are easy. They’re cheaper. You have multibillion companies that operate in magnitudes of—of volume and scale that can sell these things pretty darn cheap. But also here in Austin, I called a couple different companies that do organic lawn care because I’m looking at getting some lawn care for my home and I wanna do it in a way that is natural and not providing pesticides for my animals. I mean, I have cats. I have dogs. Hopefully, a kiddo soon and I want them to be able to interact with the grass and the environment and not have to worry about chemicals and–

Evan Brand:  Yeah, and if you’re going barefoot and grounding yourself on your glyphosate yard, that’s not very–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  That’s not very good.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And I–

Evan Brand:  I guess that’s a—that’s another tip, too. If we have people–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Boom!

Evan Brand:  Like how did we get on this topic. If you’re traveling which I think Justin will probably do. If he’s not, this is my recommendation to Justin, and is to get grounded when you travel especially if you’re doing time zones because my dad when he went over to China, he was working over there for a while, I told him to go to a park as soon as he got there. I mean, you’re talking what—12 time zones to China from US?  And he went to a park there right next to his hotel and went barefoot on the grass for like an hour and he said that he slept really good. Probably he was just exhausted but I think—I’d like to think that—that part of the grounding and reduction of inflammation and stuff like that helped as well.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, he just placed a lot of those negative ions that you accumulate.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Absolutely.

Evan Brand:  So and—and then flying at night which it sucks because you would destroy your circadian rhythm if you’re doing a red eye, but in terms of radiation—Mercola has written a lot about this. Your reduction of radiation’s basically 99% if you’re flying at night because the sun is not up and the sun is not beaming through the airplane.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  100%. 100%. So like the big thing—I just, I kinda got off topic just to touch—but the whole thing with the pesticides–

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Calling these companies up, they were telling me it’s a huge demand. That lots and lots of people are demanding the natural alternative versus the toxic pesticides and this company was actually talking about moving away from—because they offered the organic option but they also have the regular option, talking about moving away from the conventional option and going more to the natural option exclusively because the demand is there. People are–

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  People are understanding the fact that a lot of the chemicals are carcinogenic. There’s been studies looking at people that get actual lawn care like pesticides and chemicals put on their lawn, you know, shoot little flags, little sticks–

Evan Brand:  Oh, yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  They put on their lawns saying, “Hey, beware!” That there’s a correlation with those people and cancer. So it’s like, alright–

Evan Brand:  My neighbor has one.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  My next door neighbor. He—and you know what he does? I’m so glad I asked because I was paranoid about it. I saw the—the truck come and do several applications of glyphosate on his yard and he always has the little stick with the sign there.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  And I asked him. I said, “Tim, how often are you getting this yard sprayed?” I said, “This flag is always there.” He goes, “Oh, I just keep it to keep the kids off because the kids will walk through the neighborhood. I just keep it there to keep the kids off the yard.” It’s like, “Okay, well, thank gosh, because I thought you were getting it sprayed every week.” Apparently, he’s getting it sprayed like every 6 weeks which is still too much but hopefully now that the seasons are changing and grass is not gonna be growing, hopefully he’s not getting winter application. I mean, surely not.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right, exactly. So again the market’s demanding that because people are observe—even though conventional medicine doesn’t wanna talk about how things in our environment are causing cancer and they wanna just sell you drugs to actually treat the cancer and not fix the root cause of the cancer, right?

Evan Brand:  Or prevent it, yeah?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s whole different podcast. Right. It’s a whole different podcast. So the toxicity part is important. So the solution to pollution is dilution. I think we got on that thread because we talked about toxicity in the water.

Evan Brand:  Right.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So clean water I think is really important. Next is figure out your snacks. Now some of my patients are on the autoimmune diet. I know some of yours are as well where they may have to be more strict with eggs or nuts or seeds or maybe some more of these snacky things like the—some of the bars that are maybe have some nuts in them. So I would say, number one, dried salmon’s excellent alternative. Good Omega 3s. Good fat, really good—very, very satiating, right? Number two, I would say after that would be jerky. There’s lots of good gluten-free jerkies out there that are just good dried beef.

Evan Brand:  I got a bag right here on my desk.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  This is Whole Foods and where’d it go? It’s under here and they use—let’s see—they’re using tamari. So they’re using the gluten-free soy sauce and it’s water and soybeans. Spices, now it does say spices but still I’m not concerned that there’s MSG in there. There could be some cumin or maybe some other spices.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  That are not AIP but I don’t think you’re gonna fall apart.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So I’m gonna give you one Paleo demerit right now because of–

Evan Brand:  What?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  The soy.

Evan Brand:  Oh, come on.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I’m gonna give you one Paleo demerit, okay? Now with good behavior, you may be able to earn it back by the end of the show.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, right.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  But yeah, at least it’s tamari though. It could be the soy with the MSG and the gluten in it.

Evan Brand:  Exactly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So like on the scale of like good, better, best. If you’re like I’m going into the store and I gotta buy some jerky because I got his flight and I really wanna make sure I’m not starving. That’s definitely a better option than all the other crap that are there, because tons have the conventional soy. They have added sugar and they have the MSG. So on that scale of good, better, best, it’s definitely better.

Evan Brand:  Well, not to even mention, this is grass-fed beef jerky.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, so good quality there, too.

Evan Brand:  Yeah. I mean it’s not—think about your Jack Link’s or some type of jerky like that.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, it’s crap.

Evan Brand:  That is factory-farmed beef without a doubt. Yeah, this is actually the teriyaki one which I reluctantly got because they don’t have the original.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yup.

Evan Brand:  They’ve had original there which is literally just like beef, salt, and a couple of spices and that’s it. But they’ve—I don’t know, they’ve not stocked it at our local one, but check it out. Look right by the cash register if you do go to your Whole Foods and you should see it. I found it nowhere else in the groceries. It’s just a small little Ziploc bag and it’s like made in-house jerky. So it’s–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Got it.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s good. My next one is the KIND bars. Again, not all KIND bars are created equal. So you gotta look at the family. They have like fruit, nut, and then there’s like nuts & spice. If you’ll look at it, you’ll see what family it is you want. The Nuts & Spice. And they have about 4 or 5 flavors that have 5g of sugar or less, which is actually pretty good for a bar. So I like the dark chocolate and sea salt, the mocha, there’s a caramel one, and then there’s a Madagascar vanilla and a mint one. So there’s 5 that have 4-5g of sugar or less. The Madagascar vanilla has the least amount of sugar, 4g of to about 9-10g of protein and then some good fat in there as well. So not a bad deal.

Evan Brand:  Now those are not organic, correct?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Correct. I don’t think those are like 100% organic.

Evan Brand:  So Love Crunch, it’s by I think the brand is QIA or maybe, no, it’s—it’s Nature’s Path Organics, I believe. I think they’ve discontinued all of them. Maybe you can find them online but for a while I was using the Love Crunch bars.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  They’re so delicious, 100% organic, almonds, cashews. I believe they did have a small amount of peanuts added to their nut blend so maybe a little demerit there but otherwise, your nuts in that bar were organic and it was organic dark chocolate. So that was a delicious bar and also, I’ve got a free box of Mark Sisson’s bars.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yup.

Evan Brand:  His primal kitchen bars. It’s a grass-fed collagen dark chocolate bar. Those are really, really, really good.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I tried those. I wasn’t a big fan of them.

Evan Brand:  No? Well–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Whose bars I like the best right now is Dave Asprey’s bar.

Evan Brand:  His are good but I ate 2 of his bars when I went to—where’d I go? When I went to Los Angeles for the conference that he had last year and I got–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, Bulletproof.

Evan Brand:  A box of those bars. I had 2 of those bars that morning on the flight–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Gave you the runs?

Evan Brand:  No, but I was in severe stomach pain like a sharp pain.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  MCT.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, the MCT got me.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, the MCT I think there may be a little bit of–

Evan Brand:  Or the ex—I think he had—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Xylitol.

Evan Brand:  I think he had that XCT oil which is supposedly even stronger in there.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I think just the C6, or no, the—yeah, that the XCT I think is more C6. So more of the—the octanoic acid in there.

Evan Brand:  I didn’t poop my pants.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, man. That’s a tough one. I’m so—I like those because it’s got a little bit of MCT in there and then it’s got a little bit of the vanilla. His—his are pretty good. Again, let’s see what else do I have in bag? I’m ready to go. I gotta go finish packing after this podcast. Hard boiled eggs are good. Hard boil–

Evan Brand:  You’re not gonna bring those with you, are you?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I—I have—I’ve been known to in the past.

Evan Brand:  What do you do? You just make them before and put them in a Ziploc?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I got one of those little hardboiled egg makers and I just throw them on there, 6 minutes, let it cool off and then just throw it in a Ziploc bag. Put it like in my, you know, on my personal, on my backpack, on my carry-on. Not in my suitcase.

Evan Brand:  Oh, I believe the brand is called Artisana. I don’t—Justin’s is okay but they have a lot of sugar. Sorry.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, yeah, they do.

Evan Brand:  Sorry. Sorry, Justin.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I used to post them on my Facebook for a—for a while. I like their dark chocolate with the peanut butter even though that’s a Paleo demerit, I know. It’s a—it’s a good one, for like a cheap, for a treat. I used to post it so much. A lot of my patients thought that I—that was my company.

Evan Brand:  Oh, that’s awesome.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I know, that’d be nice.

Evan Brand:  There’s another—so Justin’s is okay. They’re not organic with any of their nuts so that’s an issue because almonds are–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  Heavily sprayed. However, I believe the brand is called Artisana. It’s in the same area as the little nut butter packet and they have a raw and organic walnut, almond and pecan packets that you can buy. I believe it’s 2 bucks for a little packet of some raw nuts, raw nut butter. There’s another brand, too. I can’t think of what it’s called. I’m gonna have to look it up for you but I’ve sampled it. They gave me and it was all organic pecans and walnuts and cinnamon. I think it was called like Crazy Nut Butter or something. I’ll have to look it up for you.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  There’s one called NuttZo that’s really good. NuttZo’s excellent but it’s like $18 a jar.

Evan Brand:  I know, it’s not the NuttZo. That’s a good one, too.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  It’s good. It’s like that stuff’s like pure manna. It’s like literally gold.

Evan Brand:  I know, yeah. Oh, it’s called—it’s called Cracked. So here’s a shout out for Chris.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Crack? Are you doing—are you doing crack now?

Evan Brand:  Yeah, Cracked Nut Butter. It’s over—Chris over at Cracked Nut Butter—they found me online and they sent me a little sample kit and I ate their entire sample kit very quickly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Now that explains why you’re so energetic today.

Evan Brand:  Exactly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I just thought it was the adrenal support.

Evan Brand:  No, it was the—it was Cracked Nut Butter which I haven’t had—I haven’t had for like 6 months but they have a—it is a—it was, let’s—let me tell you. I’m gonna tell you right now. Hold on. Alright, here’s the ingredient list.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  What do you got?

Evan Brand:  Pecans—pecans and I believe this is all organic but I’m not 100% sure here. But it’s pecans, almonds, grass-fed whey protein, digestive enzymes such amylase, lipase, cellulase, protease, lactase.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Nice.

Evan Brand:  Organic ghee, organic coconut, and cinnamon and it comes in a little—I’m gonna have to buy these. They were too good. It comes in a little pouch and you just unscrew the lid and you just squeeze the pouch and you could make 2 or 3 servings out of 1 pouch. I think it was like 4 or 5 bucks a pouch but it was unreal how delicious it is. I’m gonna have to hit them up.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And what’s that called again?

Evan Brand:  That is called CrackedNutButter.com. I may even have a coupon code. Let me see if I have my email for this guy.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s excellent. We can always put it on after the fact, but that’s good.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, you put it in the show notes if I find it.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I gotta get that. Cracked?

Evan Brand:  CrackedNutButter.com

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great. Cracked Nut Butter. That’s awesome. We’ll have to get some crack here. Love it.

Evan Brand:  Oh, I do—I do have a secret VIP coupon code for you but we can’t give it to the listeners. I was instructed that it’s highly, highly top secret.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Got it. Oh, I’ve seen it before.

Evan Brand:  But I will give it. Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Awesome, that’d be great. So outside of that. One more that I like. Epic bars. I like Epic bars.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, they’re good.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  They’re pretty decent. I mean, for some of my autoimmune patients, there’s a couple of bars that do not have any nuts in it, which is great.

Evan Brand:  Little bit too many cranberries.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I mean–

Evan Brand:  Little bit on the sugar side.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  You’d have to look at the sugar.

Evan Brand:  Little bit too many sweet.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I’d have to look at them but they have a couple that are—are decent that don’t have any of the nuts in them. So people that are just wanting like a really good clean, little bit of fruit, little bit of protein and fat, it could be a good bar that’s still autoimmune friendly. So I like that piece of it. Some have some of the almonds in it. Some don’t. So you just gotta look at the 4 or 5 that are out there.

Evan Brand:  Yup. I’m gonna send you the—I’ll send you the link to the store here because it’s—they advertised these little packets as TSA friendly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, nice!

Evan Brand:  So I’ll send it to you and you can—and you can check them out.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, the Epic, they have a chicken bar, too. I just saw. I haven’t tried it, but that’s another option. I believe, don’t they have a—an organ meat bar, too?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  They do. I think they do with some liver in there.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Which is excellent.

Evan Brand:  So the op—the options are out there and I mean, if people who are listening, they’re like, “Well, I’m not flying. I don’t fly.” Well, what if you go camping or what if you–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  Are just out and you’re running errands all day in the city? I mean, even for my wife and I, we’ll take some snacks with us if we’re gonna be running out all day for hours, going around the city, going downtown, going to the river, etc. We’ll bring some of that with us. Also another brand I believe it’s called Wellshire Farms–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  And I found this at Whole Foods. They have—now I can’t say whether it’s pasture-raised meats or not but it’s at least no antibiotics, no hormones. They have some beef sticks. They also have some I wanna say it’s pepperoni or some other type of stick but it’s completely antibiotic, hormone-free. So in a pinch, that’s a much better option than you going to Subway which is not fresh at all or going to, I mean maybe Chipotle could be okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, Chipotle is not bad.

Evan Brand:  But they’re had a lot of—they’ve had a lot of issues.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  They’ve had some but I think I’ve seen some reviews where they do have the highest quality meat out there out of all the fast—fast food type of stores.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, I think maybe some of it’s blown out of proportion because they’re trying so hard to go natural and grass-fed and all that. Maybe the media is against that, who knows?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  Could be food industry.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, it’s very possible. I mean, anytime people are trying to show the value add and the quality of food, you know, well, how do you beat these multinational corporations that have absolute terrible quality, right? They just—they just can’t compete at that level.

Evan Brand:  Right, and just like we’ve seen anti-Tesla news after one guy got killed in the electric car, and now they’re trying to say all Teslas and electric cars are bad. Who knows if those media stories are getting co-opted by oil companies, you know? So if you see something anti this or anti that, like the anti-Chipotle media, maybe there is some sort of media bias. It’s hard to say.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, you just gotta take it all with a grain of salt. That’s all.

Evan Brand:  Yup, absolutely.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  But I would say also one of the things I do—not the best for going on planes because you gotta have it, it’s gotta be mixed in water and technically you can’t get a lot of the water through the TSA, right? But a good protein like shake or cup that you can just throw in some collagen, some grass-fed collagen, mix it with some water or coconut milk. Shake it up and I’ll—if I go out and run some errands to do something or go to the gym, I’ll have it with me. That’s a real easy one and you can kinda figure out exactly what you want in there, whether it’s just protein or you wanna mix up some low glycemic fruit or maybe add some MCT or something. You can make that pretty nutrient-dense and it’s darn convenient.

Evan Brand:  That’s a great idea and if you really needed to not use water and you wanted the coconut milk, if you couldn’t get away with brining a can, you could bring one of those dry, cardboard containers of the organic coconut milk or–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yes.

Evan Brand:  Almond milk. That’d easy.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yup, those are good. Also avocados are decent because they’re kinda self-contained. If you can get like a plastic spoon and a knife on the plane then you could just—you know, plastic knife, plastic spoon kinda gig, you could just scoop it out. That’s pretty good because it’s self-contained and you can just throw it in your bag and you’re good to go and I like things that are high in nutrient density like also satiating, because I mean after 1 or 2 avocados, your appetite’s pretty curbed.

Evan Brand:  Absolutely. I—I was thinking, I don’t know where you would get these. I saw Jimmy Moore. He posted like on online—I don’t know—3 or 4 years ago. He might have been in another country. There were miniature Kerrigolds.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yes.

Evan Brand:  Like the little baby–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Saw that once.

Evan Brand:  The little baby butters.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I saw that once and I saw that at a Starbucks in North Star when I was skiing a couple years ago up in Lake Tahoe. I saw it once over there.

Evan Brand:  Ah, okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  But I’ve seen Dave Asprey post it online, too. So wherever those were at, if I could just buy those, that would be absolutely amazing.

Evan Brand:  That would be so perfect. Just—I mean all you would need is a tablespoon of butter and you would be satiated likely.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yup, I 100% agree. So we talked about some of the food things. Do you feel like we hit everything on the food side?

Evan Brand:  I feel like the food is over hit, for sure.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Alright, let’s talk about supplements.

Evan Brand:  Sure.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Alright, so number one, I’m going on vacation. I’m going on holiday, so does that mean I’m probably gonna get a couple of Paleo demerits thrown at me by you when I get back? Probably, right? So I may cheat a little bit. Will I have gluten? Definitely not. That’s gonna be my no-no. I have a history of Hashimoto’s. Not worth it and I also gotta practice what I preach for my patients. So what am I gonna do? Well, maybe a gluten-free option is totally fine. I’m gonna bring activated charcoal. That’s gonna be a go-to because that will help bind up any toxins in the food that I’m eating. If it’s–

Evan Brand:  Let me ask you this.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Go ahead.

Evan Brand:  Are you gonna take that every meal? Are you gonna take it when the meal’s just questionable? How are you gonna dose that?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Only questionable and—and alcohol.

Evan Brand:  Okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Questionable food and alcohol. I’m also gonna be bringing, with those questionable foods, also a bunch of extra enzymes and hydrochloric acid.

Evan Brand:  Okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Just to make sure–

Evan Brand:  And that will–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I’m breaking that down well.

Evan Brand:  Will that will be with every meal because you think your gut? Because I’m thinking there might be like a circadian rhythm to your digestive system even.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, we can talk about that next with the circadian rhythm part but definitely getting the hydrochloric acid there just to make sure I’m breaking down the foods. Two, I mean, who doesn’t eat a little bit more on vacation, right? So if you’re eating a little bit more, it’s a little bit more taxation on your gut, so I wanna make sure my gut has the ability to break things down. Also hydrochloric acid does kinda have like a sterilization effect. So if I’m eating some food that may be a little bit questionable, I don’t wanna get sick.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I’ve gotten sick on vacations before. It can wreck a vacation and when you’re spending a lot of money on a vacation, me has spent an extra 30 or 50 bucks on some hydrochloric acid enzymes is a worthwhile insurance policy. Plus–

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I feel better and lighter after a meal.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So that piece—that piece is really nice to keep one, keep my gut kinda cleaned out from things getting in there and then number two, making sure I can break down that food and feel good afterwards.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Charcoal, with anything questionable and with alcohol. And then number three, off the bat, for the circadian rhythm part, I’m gonna—I got a nice bottle of melatonin I’m brining with me and I’ll hit that up as soon as it’s time for me to go to bed. I will use that kinda reset my rhythm, that’s number one. And number two, what’s great to kinda get your cycle back on track when you can is watch the sunrise while grounding and having some nice coffee. Because you get like the HPA axis because you’re kinda grounding. You get the negative ions being dispersed. You got—I’m sorry, I think it’s the positive—is it positive or negative with the grounding? It’s positive ions.

Evan Brand:  You’re getting—yup. Positive ions.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  You’re dispersing–

Evan Brand:  No. it—no, It is negative.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yes.

Evan Brand:  It is negative ions. It’s the same thing–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  You’d get at the beach. Yeah. Negative ions, you’re thinking of positive electrons. The—the extra electrons you’re getting. There’s two different things going on.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So you’re dispersing the negative ions and you’re receiving a whole bunch of positive ions.

Evan Brand:  I believe you’re getting both.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Getting both.

Evan Brand:  You’re—yeah, you’re receiving negative ions, like an ion generator for example.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yes.

Evan Brand:  It’s like the ocean and then you’re also receiving the free electrons from the earth. The earth is like a giant electron generator so you’re getting both electrons and ions.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Great. So we’re dispersing a whole bunch of negative ions there, right? We are using the melatonin to kinda reset our rhythm so we’re saying this is our new bedtime and then we’re also getting a little bit of stimulation at that same time while we’re consuming a little bit of clean caffeine and also optically triggering the pineal gland, which is where melatonin’s made that, “Hey, light’s coming in.” It’s hitting that optic chiasm that—that cranial nerve 2, that optic nerve. It—it’s hitting that and that is going to the brain and telling the hypothalamus, “Hey, this is our new circadian rhythm.”

Evan Brand:  Now people are gonna wanna know what dosage are you gonna do with melatonin.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I always try going lower than high. So most people are more liberal on that. Typically up to 3mg. I keep it al 500mcg to 1mg.

Evan Brand:  Okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Again 1000mg—I’m sorry, 1000mcg per mg. So 1—1mg is 1000mcg. So 500mcg to a 1000mcg or 0.5mg to 1mg.

Evan Brand:  Okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I get like the 1mg sublingual tablets and I just–

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Kinda nibble off a little bit.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I don’t need much so my body is very sensitive to melatonin so I like to keep that—those receptor sites more sensitive.

Evan Brand:  Yup, absolutely. What—what about other vitamins, you mentioned adaptogens?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, so definitely adaptogens. I’m bringing some pure ashwagandha on this trip so that will just help with the circadian rhythm. It will also help modulate the immune system. People forget when you’re on a plane, that air is getting recycled. You’re getting a whole bunch of nasty air coming in and it’s not like we have a whole bunch of healthy people like me and you on the plane. Most people are probably unhealthy because–

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Number one, they’re traveling a lot on average. Most of them travel a lot. And two, if you travel a lot, you tend to you know, get poor sleep and also eat more you know, junky food on average, right? Could be off. Just go to the airport and sit and people watch and you can make up your own conclusion on that. I do that a lot.

Evan Brand:  Absolutely.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah and I was doing more physical medicine. You could just walk and just see, “Oh, that person so asses off, this person’s ain't­.” You know, you just see so much and learn about people’s walks and you could just diagnose by walking and movement pattern. That’s also a—a fun time in the airport but in general, the circadian rhythm piece is really important and the immune system because of all the people in the plane that are coughing or hacking up a lung. You wanna make sure you’re immune system is strong so you can deal with any viruses or bacteria that’s flowing through the air.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And also if you get that air vent on you, turn it off. I know it doesn’t help if the person next to you has it on, I get it. But at least it’s not blowing right in your face.

Evan Brand:  Why are you saying that? Because you’re gonna be—let’s say if that air’s recycled, bacteria you’re shoving that right into your–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah and you–

Evan Brand:  Right into your face?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  You know again, these infectious debris viruses, they’re gonna work more on proximity, right? If you get something going–

Evan Brand:  Makes sense.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right into your face, they can get right into your nasal orifice or your—your ear orifice. That’s a big area supposedly where viruses come inter—interact with the bodies, the ear as well.

Evan Brand:  That’s true.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s why the old wives’ tale of putting hydrogen peroxide in your ear as being of good antiviral or good natural remedy for the flu. I think it’s because the viruses can come in contact with your—your orifices.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, when I actually met—I don’t know if I told you this or not—when I met with one of the reps at Designs For Health, the—he came into town. He flew in from Boston.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  He said that every single flight, he takes the silver and sprays it into his nose and his ears.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yes, exactly.

Evan Brand:  Every flight.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Because he’s probably trying to kill bacteria and viruses.

Evan Brand:  And this guy flew like 200—200 days a year. So I take that recommendation–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  With great grace.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Huge fan of that and you can actually cut the—the silver with hydrogen peroxide as well and put that intransally or inter—inter—I think it’s, what do you call it? Oh, I think you call it the—your earhole. Or your—your auditory canal.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  You put it right there.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s it.

Evan Brand:  So—yeah maybe in the future, airplanes will use HEPA air purifiers–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Evan Brand:  And things like that, but for now, they’re not.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  So the problem is though and this has happened to me. If I get a middle seat and I’m sandwiched between two heavy set people, they create a lot of body heat so it gets kinda stuffy. So what do you then? You just fan yourself? I mean how do you—you know, you want that air flow. You want that little vent. I mean, I guess you—I don’t know. I mean some—I don’t know. It—it’s a tough call. It’s like do you burn up and then you sweat the whole time or do you—or do you put air in your face that’s maybe contaminated?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Well, my—my trick is I’ll tell people here hopefully it won’t come back to bite me, but if my wife and I are flying somewhere and we’re not flying Southwest so you know, Southwest has the open seating kinda gig.

Evan Brand:  Right.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So you get on there and you choose. But if you’re flying on a flight where you have assigned seating, you know, we’ll always choose the aisle and the window because most people don’t wanna choose in the middle, right?

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So then if the flight’s not full there’s a good chance that middle seat’s open.

Evan Brand:  That’s true.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I mean, that’s just kind of an old wives’ tale trick that works very well. I’ve done it. And it’s worked for me dozens of times over the years. So that’s what we’re doing today and I think we got an open middle seat. Fingers crossed.

Evan Brand:  Cool.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Fingers crossed. So that’s what I do for that. So melatonin to get the rhythm res—kinda reset. The ashwagandha or the adaptogenic herbal blend, whether it’s Eleuthero, rhodiola, ginseng, ashwagandha, holy basil, I mean you could just roll down your list. You know, your cordyceps are kinda adaptogenic, too.

Evan Brand:  Reishi, you could do.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Reishi mushroom.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Reishi to help modulate the immune system. Oh, really, really great tactics. Next, I would say even just extra immune support on top of that. I’m gonna bring some immunosupporting herbs as well, just to give my immune system a little bit of bump. Also higher dose vitamin D is excellent. Higher dose vitamin C is great. These are all just good things to have so if you get sick, you’re not gonna, you know, waste your time being inside and—and not being—not enjoying your vacation essentially.

Evan Brand:  Right, right.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So I have all those things packed up and I would say also this is a game changer but gut-killing herbs. Gut-killing herbs are gonna be really important whether it’s oil of oregano, silver, or blend of berberine, antiparasitic herbs are very helpful. I have lost 1-2 vacations where I’ve gotten sick and just literally had to be like right next to a toilet. That’s not fun when you’re spending a lot of money on a vacation. So having, you know, 2 bottles of some good oil or oregano or some broad space antiparasitics can be awesome.

Evan Brand:  So what would you–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Because if you get. Go ahead.

Evan Brand:  What would you be taking? Are you gonna take that or is that just something you could do if you were concerned about where you were going maybe?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Well, I’m in a middle of an antiparasitic program and I timed this way so I’m gonna be on the gut-killing herbs anyway because I rather just prevent than have to respond.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  You know what I mean? I’d rather be on the front side of it than on the back side of it. So I’m gonna be doing my GI Clear 1, 5, and 6 right now. Going through a nice parasite killing program which we gotta schedule a podcast to talk about some of our results that have come back.

Evan Brand:  I know. I know. For sure it’s gonna be fun.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That will be exciting. So that piece is really important because I don’t wanna get sick, especially if you’re in sketchier countries where like the food may not be like up to like what you’re used to in the United States and doesn’t mean the country’s bad, it just means that what’s in that food from a flora perspective just may be different.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, let’s go through some of those countries just—just to help. India is one.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Of course.

Evan Brand:  I’ve had a handful at this point especially with Blasto where a woman–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Huge.

Evan Brand:  She’s in Dallas.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Giardia, too.

Evan Brand:  She was clear. We tested her. She went to India, came back tons of symptoms, re-tested her. She had Blasto. So India I would say was one. We–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I’ve seen Mexico and I’ve seen any of that Latin American countries have been an issue.

Evan Brand:  Okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I’ve been sick in Mexico twice. So I can speak–

Evan Brand:  Did you get specific infections that you tested or just?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I treated right away and knocked it out right away but I got really sick like just you know, couldn’t hold anything down and I had brought herbs with me and literally knocked it out, like everything was just liquid for like couple of hours and then I got back to my hotel room and then started my herbs and then everything solidified like right away.

Evan Brand:  Wow, that’s an excellent–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And it would have been not good and the trip before that, I forgot to bring it and 5-6 days it lasted. I got back home, got to my office, pulled some stuff off the shelf, started, fixed right away. So–

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So all my trips I treat myself preventatively.

Evan Brand:  Yeah, and I was gonna say if people are listening and they think they’re off the hook because they’re not traveling internationally, you’re not necessarily because I’ve never traveled internationally myself as of right now and I’ve had 2 parasite infections, and I’ve not gone anywhere out of the country. So if you’re going to somewhere and you’re drinking some new tap water or even think about it this far, what if you’re going to a restaurant where—and tell me if I’m wrong here—but what if you’re going to a restaurant and you’re getting some conventional rice, and that rice was soaked in water that was contaminated? Couldn’t you technically, theoretically get a parasite infection that way as well?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  100%, 100%. And that’s why when I travel, I bring at least 1 antimicrobial, 1 digestive support, charcoal, and 1 bottle of probiotics on average.

Evan Brand:  So if you’re doing just a little bit of charcoal, what are you gonna do like 500mg is like a standard capsule?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, so typically 500mg to a gram per meal.

Evan Brand:  Is your poop gonna turn black from one dosage?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, it should. Absolutely. Kinda like–

Evan Brand:  It should, okay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, to me, obviously the more caps you do, the more drastic that will be but you’ll start to see a tinge of going more black just like you will with beets and it going more red.

Evan Brand:  Okay, I was gonna ask you, what, like so say you’re traveling and then you’re doing like a spa experience, like let’s say you’re going to do an infrared sauna, would you wanna be taking your charcoal before the sauna or after or during or something like that? Is that gonna help you?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Not really sure about that. But I would say that obviously you’re gonna sweat certain things out with the sauna, that’s the whole goal.

Evan Brand:  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And the charcoal’s gonna kinda sequester all the—the stuff in the gut that it’s come in contact with. It’s putting straitjackets on a lot of the—the critters that it will be moving out the intestinal tract. So again, once it’s kinda sequestered in the intestines, you’re probably not gonna get too much of that to come out of the skin, so I think it’d actually make it—make the experience with the sauna more efficient because there’d be less stuff that it have to pull out through the skin. It will grab it all in the intestines and pull it out that way. And again, if you got crap in your—well, that doesn’t sound right—if you got crap in your intestines, of course. If you have toxins or bad debris in your intestines, it makes sense you want the charcoal to meet and interact with it right where it’s located, right? It’s much harder pulling toxins out when you have to use your skin because there’s a lot of different processes it has to go through and filters to make its way out through the skin, right?

Evan Brand:  Right.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Not saying it’s not good, but if you have stuff that’s in your intestinal tract that’s toxic. You wanna meet it with something in the intestinal tract that can bind it up and allow it to go right into the toilet. So typically a good charcoal is good and/or a good bentonite clay. You can choose one or the other. Some people get backed up by it so you just gotta figure out how much you can handle. Start low and work your way up. If you don’t get backed up by it, then you can always go a little bit higher.

Evan Brand:  Sure, so maybe we’ll spend the last minute here. We talked about a couple of free things like grounding, looking at the sunrise, looking at the sunset which hopefully you’re doing if you’re on vacation. That’s a big part of it. Other things could be free. I mean, what about just swimming for example. If you’re going to an ocean place, that’s incredibly restorative. And that’d be a good jetlag reducer. I always try to jump in a body of water if I’m traveling to one.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, that’s excellent. Also just a really good cold shower in the morning. That stimulates the hypothalamus-pituitary axis so it talks to all the organs better. It gets things revved up. So cortisol’s higher in the morning, within the half hour to an hour of waking. So get that good stimulation, maybe after you watch the sunrise and you have some coffee and you let your feet kinda ground on the concrete or on the grass, you go jump in a cool bath or just go draw a cold shower if you can.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s a good. I’m gonna be practicing and doing all of these things on my trip because we all practice what we preach but that’s a good first step right there.

Evan Brand:  What about a massage? I guess that wouldn’t be free if you’re paying someone for one but I feel like that could be a good grounding type exercise, too. Really boost up your oxytocin a little bit. I mean it can’t hurt.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, I get a massage. I get at least one therapeutic massage a week. I’m a huge fan of massage and soft tissue and/or physical medicine techniques like chiropractic. I feel like it really helps keep your body in balance and it keeps the lymphatic system moving. Some of your toxins—well, the lymphs—the interplay between the blood and the tissue. So the more you can keep toxins going from the tissue into the blood and out your body via kidneys and/or stool, that’s gonna help you be more healthy. So I think that’s a great thing.

Evan Brand:  Because there’s what, 2 or 3 times more lymph fluid than actual blood in the body?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Evan Brand:  I mean, it’s amazing. So-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Cleaning the blood out.

Evan Brand:  Movement I guess, movement would be the last one that would be free. Exercise or some type of routine while you’re—while you’re traveling as well. I haven’t traveled any more than 3 time zones but I’ve always tried to implement some exercise. You know, hit the hotel gym or the resort gym or whatever and—and get some exercises that way. That’s been a huge mood booster for me and really kinda hit the reset button on jetlag.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, if I have a lot of free time and I’m just sitting and reading and relaxing, I try to exercise every single day.

Evan Brand:  What do you do? Are you gonna do like some weights or?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, it’s gonna be weights to me even at any kind of gym, I can at least do pull-ups, push-ups, dips. I can at least one-legged squats. I mean, all these things I can do without any weight.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And then I may if I have enough room in my suitcase I may bring my TRX which is like the rope suspension pulleys that you can hook up behind a doorjamb or put over like even like a tree limb or whatever and then you can do pull-ups and—and do different things with that, too.

Evan Brand:  Excellent.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So I like that, those are great.

Evan Brand:  That’s good coverage. I think—I think we should wrap this thing up.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I mean, we’re like giving everyone a ridiculous amount of knowledge like—like through—how, what’s the expression? You’re given a whole bunch of water through a firehose, right? You just can’t get all of it in.

Evan Brand:  Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  So listen to this twice. Share it with friends, family, neighbors, and if you’re fine on this information, and tell us it’s useful, please give us a 5-star review on iTunes. We’ll put the link below. We’d love hearing what people think and just giving some great information to help improve people’s health and live the better.

Evan Brand:  Absolutely. This should be on a postcard that’s given out at the airport. Travel tips but I don’t think these tips would be—these tips would be controversial. A low fat diet would be—would be the approach. Eat a banana and good luck. That would be the approach.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s it, 100%, man. But hopefully we’ve dispelled some of those myths today and I will be back in 2 weeks. I think we got some material in the—in the can, in the hopper here so there won’t be any lag time for all of our loyal listeners but look forward to coming back, recharged and talking about some awesome other health, nutrition, and functional medicine topics.

Evan Brand:  Awesome. Well, take good care and safe travels.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Thanks, Evan. We’ll talk soon, man.

Evan Brand:  K, man. Bye!

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Bye!