Dr. Robert Rakowski – Functional Medicine and Human Performance- Podcast #34


Dr. Justin Marchegiani interviews Dr. Robert Rakowski on this podcast where he addresses the main issues that he’s seeing in his practice today including fatigue, thyroid, and adrenal problems.  He also talks about The Magnificent Seven and his 5-minute exam. 

They also discuss about viscerosomatic reflex, dysbiosis, and factors that affect core strength in athletic performance. Dr. Bob talks about his screening tests and assessment for disc issues in the upper and lower spine. Furthermore, you can learn more about metabolic acidosis and how much we are spending on sick care nowadays. Find out how Dr. Bob extracts information from a scientific literature without being overwhelmed and listen to his awesome advice on how to win in life.

In this episode, topics include:

4:20 All about functional medicine, nutrition, applied kinesiology and chiropractic

13:32 Factors that affect core strength in athletic performance

20:12 Dr. Bob’s in-office diagnostics and the big 3 tests

27:45 About the immune system, autoimmunity, gut health and hormones

31:59 Chinese botanicals and medicinal herbs that fight cancer and other diseases








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Info on Dr. Robert Rakowski: Robert A. Rakowski, DC, CCN, DACBN, DIBAK is a Chiropractor, Kinesiologist, Certified Clinical Nutritionist, Certified Biological Terrain Instructor, and the clinic director of the Natural Medicine Center in Houston Texas. In addition to running a busy practice, Dr. Rakowski has lectured internationally for over 20 years on various topics in Natural and Lifestyle Medicine.

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Hey, there! It’s Dr. Justin.  Welcome back to Beyond Wellness Radio.  Today we have an awesome guest, Dr. Robert Rakowski and–and Dr. Bob, as he’s known is an applied kinesiologist, a functional medicine specialist.  He’s lectured all around the world on aspects such as clinic nutrition, functional–functional medicine, human performance.  He has worked with professional athletes in all sports and work with basically anyone that’s trying to achieve peak performance and improve their health. Dr. Bob, how are we doing today?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Hey, I’m absolutely fabulous.  I’m honored to be your guest and–and looking forward to sharing.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That is so great.  Dr. Bob, tell me a little bit about how you got into this field.  I–I heard story, I think once at a lecture, I remember you had headaches or migraines or can you talk about how you got into this field of functional medicine and chiropractic?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:   Well, actually, it actually goes back to sports injury.  I was playing football in college.  Yeah, you know, I got–I got hurt playing football.  Didn’t know anything about chiropractic, went to my medal–medical doctor, gave me muscle relaxers, pain killers; put my neck in a brace, my arm in a sling.  Long story short, I went on a date that night and had one drink.  Just one and fell asleep behind the wheel of my vehicle at 55 mph.  Fortunately, my date grabbed the wheel, shook me, you know, I pulled over the side of the road, and she said, “What happened?”  And I said, “You know, I don’t know.  I just passed out.”  And so, she drove home, and I got back and I picked up this medicine.  It said, well, don’t mix with alcohol, don’t operate heavy machinery.  My bad for not reading that first.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Wow.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  But I just thought, you know, this stuff almost killed me, and I–I literally threw it away.  I said, “I’m not taking anything like that ever again.”  So I went back to the gym.  I was kind of a gym rat in those days, still love to train daily, but, you know, the owner of the gym looked at me and he says, “Wow!  You look like you’ve been hit by a train.”  And I said, “Yeah, it’s about how I feel.”  He said, “Well, you need a good chiropractor.”  I didn’t even know what one was.  But I said, “Sure, I’ll go.”  And chiropractor Mike Wickers in Milwaukee, Wisconsin helped me so much, so fast, and he worked with a lot of athletes and just by balancing my body not only helped me get over pain but helped me check out my own performance.  And then eventually that led to a passion for nutrition and I saw massive changes in nutrition.  I–I was probably a typically teen eating–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Burgers and fries and shakes and–and switching over to a good diet and baseline supplementation took my game to a whole new level so that passion started, you know, about 35 years ago and literally I’ve studied nutrition almost daily.  You know, for that entire period of time and I had been blessed to have been able to teach all over the world and share, and–and help world-champion athletes take up their game as well as people that were supposedly sent home to die, and some of them are still alive 20 years later and, you know, and doing much better.  So, it’s been a great journey.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Very cool and you were actually one of the–one of the physicians that I studied growing up and I chose chiropractic because I wanted to work in the field of functional medicine but I also saw what you were doing with applied kinesiology and helping people at such high levels and I–I imagine you agree when you would–when you add the nutrition element to the applied kinesiology and chiropractic, patients get better so much faster.  Is that true?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  That’s–that’s an absolutely undisputable fact, you know.  The Journal of American Medical Association has been releasing an article called the Actual Causes of Death, and they do it every decade.  The first time they did it was 1990 and they said the number one cause was cigarette smoking, number two poor diet.  In 2000, it was the same, but there was a flip flop.  In 2010 and the last time it was published and they estimate that 670,000 people per year, US, die from poor diet.  Number two is cigarette smoking at 460,000.  But interesting enough, items that they had on the list were, you know, increased body mass index, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, high blood sugar.  And last I checked, those are all due to poor diet and lack of exercise.  And by the way, lack of exercise was number three.  So you start dealing with diet and exercise, and stress management, and you’ve got the big 3 in helping people get better.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Very cool, very cool.  And you have very interesting strategy in your practice.  You kind of–you have the functional medicine side where you’re really into testing and science, and laboratory evaluation, and then you also married the–the chiropractic in with a really high quality assessment with the kinesiology.  You have also your–your 5-minute and I’ve studied all your kinesiology work.  Can you talk more about how you apply kinesiology with your chiropractic patients and why you’re able to get such great results.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah. And you know, I’m gonna–I’m gonna go back to my best instructor in chiropractic college and again, I have many greats.  But Dr. Frank Ferraro, you know, walked into a class of chiropractors and he said, “Hey, I have a question for you.  What do you chiropractors do?”  And ultimately, he would come down to the answer of “chiropractors move bones” then he asked, “What do muscles do?  Well, the answer is muscles move bones.  Who does a better job?  The muscles.  They do it 24/7, 365.  It’s their pure job.”  So he said very simply, “If you’re not working with the muscles, if you’re not assessing the muscles, if you’re not balancing the muscles, you’re missing the body’s own correction, so kinesiology just simply assesses the muscular balance.”  And you know, it’s ancient wisdom.  It goes back to Hippocrates.  He said, “In disease, look to the spine first.”  But really what I think he was saying was look to the paraspinal muscles, the muscles that support and stabilize the spine.  Because I don’t really care who the athlete is, whether they’re going for the fourth or fifth world championship or Weekend Warrior, you can always find that you can improve the paraspinal muscle balance to improve their core strength, stability, function, flexibility and when you do, you improve their performance.  And it–it’s across the board.  Now you start marrying that to clinic nutrition, where you realize that there’s a lot of people that have, you know, most people are familiar with this Vitamin D issue where people are–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Vitamin D deficient and people are Omega-3 deficient, and people tend to be generally mineral deficient, even though magnesium–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Gets–gets the big rap on that one, but reality is “good baseline nutrition, good detoxification, improving the diet, balancing the core muscles, improving the body chemistry, most of my Olympic athletes have a–have a PR or personal record, personal best, within 2 weeks of seeing me.  And that–that comes in whether they come in injured or healthy, we can move their body to a whole new level within 2 weeks.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great.  And I know you’re famous for this, the 5-minute exam that you teach all doctoral students.  Can you just walk–just the average person when they’re coming in to see and again, Dr. Bob is in Houston, Texas, so anyone who wants to fly down, Dr. Bob sees patients from all over the world–can you talk about your 5-minute exam, Dr. Bob?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, you know, it–it’s interesting that it takes a little bit of a skill set to get it done in 5 minutes–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  But literally, I start at the extremities and I look at what are known are myotome indicators or–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Indi–muscle indicators for every level of the spine related to the lower extremity which is gonna start essentially at about the third lumbar vertebra all the way down to the second sacral verteb–or second sacral neurology segment.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  In the thora–in the cervical spine, you can easily get the lower cervical spine, the fifth, sixth, seventh, and–and eighth cervical nerve root.  We have a little different for the upper cervical spine which is based on head position and–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Neurology and ability to flex, extend, and rotate.  But literally we go through both the extremities and the core in less than 5 minutes and then we also do a screening of–of things that are known as viscerosomatic reflexes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Reflexes where the organ systems actually show an imbalance or tender points or active acupuncture points on the outside of the body.  And–and what I’ve told my students for years is my mindset is, my thesis is, in the absence of trauma, bodies break down on the inside before they break down on the outside.  And so we also know that the whole body works together, meaning everything that happens on the inside affects the outside, and if you know how to look at the outside, look at these reflex points, look at the muscles, look at the acupuncture system.  Within 5 minutes, you can determine where the patient’s greatest imbalance is.  And by addressing that, that’s how we get the biggest thing for our buck.  So, you know, I–I had a professional football player come in a couple of years ago.  And I’ve got a video of him, in fact, I technically have a video release so I can probably share his name.  But this guy had a turf toe.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And he had been dealing with it for 2 years and he was losing his starting job because he couldn’t push off.  Imagine being a–a defensive end, 280 pounds, and against the guys who are gaining as well.  What we actually found out, it really wasn’t his foot at all even though the manifestation was in his foot.  He had an imbalance in his core, which is actually related to his liver.  That imbalance actually caused a little bit of a nerve pressure that collapsed the arch of his foot and put a lot of pressure on that toe, but literally we made it so much better in one week.  Now this guy went on to win the Superbowl, signed a 28.5 million dollar extension, is considered the number 3 defensive end in all of football right now.  And so going from being in jeopardy of losing his starting position and keep in mind if you’ve got a turf toe, you–you’re gonna modify your step, when you’re on a football field with those kind of animals, who knows if you would have tore up an ankle, a knee, something that could have been career-ending but instead that transitioned to a, you know, 28.5 million dollar extension which is a nice deal.  Just a nice feather in the cap and I always say, I need a better agent, because I probably should somehow negotiated for–for 1% of that or something.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I mean, if you can get a fraction or a percent, that would be amazing.  Great, awesome!  Now one of the things that you do that’s really unique and I find a lot of chiropractors missed the boat on this is assessment for disc issues in the lower–lower spine and upper spine.  Can you talk about just how you assess disc and how that that can–disc bulging or protrusion can really shut down the whole nervous system or at least those nerve roots that are involved?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Sure, while realistically if you wanna actually really confirm it’s a disc, you want an imaging study–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  An MRI, which–which, by the way, I rarely order.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  But when you’re looking at the strength of the lower extremity, what I’ll do is I’ll put the patient in a–in a high pressure circumstance, a compromised circumstance–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Most chiropractors look at patients when they’re lying down, but what if you have them seated with their knees tucked up to their chest and–and maybe their head flexed forward.  American Family Physician actually showed that that increases the pressure in the lower discs by 600-800%.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, it’s that much, wow!

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Then we also–it’s–it’s tremendous, I can send you the article.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Wow.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And then when you put the leg in a position–I like to test medial and lateral stability of the knee with the rotators, and if you flex the knee all the way up, the most, you know, stable position of the knee is locked but the most unstable is flexed all the way up.  Even with a super strong athlete you can see that there can be a weakness in their ability to stabilize that knee.  The next thing we do is we have to take pressure off the spine by having them lie down or possibly bend their body to the side or maybe even, you know, suck the belly button in, and suddenly you realize, well, there’s an increase in strength.  So they begin to realize that spinal position has something to do with the weakness that they’re experiencing in their lower extremity.  The same is true for the upper extremity, although the pressure is not as great.  We have them sit down, their chin is tucked.  They perform what’s called a Valsalva maneuver.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  They take a deep breath and hold and squeeze as if they’re trying to use the restroom and–and that will increase the cervical disc pressure, not as much as it does the lumbar but it gives a more compromised circumstance and it’s an easier way to test.  So when I test the bicep, I have–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  The patient in full flexion with the elbow all the way back.  Tricep is just at about a full extension so that way I give myself a mechanical advantage or testing advantage, because some of the people I test are outrageously strong.  The strongest guy I tested was legitimately the strongest man in the world, 6’2”, 405 lbs, and guess what with that testing protocol, we could identify things that other doctors couldn’t and help him take his game to the next level.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Wow, that’s great.  And you used that term viscerosomatic reflex and just for all the listeners at home, what that is, that’s an organ, viscerosomatic muscle.  So the organs and the muscle are basically on–on two-lane highways regarding the nervous system.  So you talked about core strength, can you touch upon, let’s say we have dysbiosis or a gut infection, maybe a parasite or maybe like an H. Pylori infection, some type of gut inflammation, how does the organs that are inflamed due to all of the stress and antibiotics and high sugar diet and gluten?  How does that affect the core strength in athletic performance?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Well, it’s definitely gonna take it down suboptimal.  I like to tell people everything works together and you hit them with some high notes there.  You know, when you start talking about dysbiosis, I’ve lectured at a major international office and that’s one of the greatest areas of research.  That just means essentially bad bug growth.  Dys means bad, bio life, bad life in your gut.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And most of us are constantly exposed to antibiotics.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  84% of antiobiotics are used in livestock so then we get antibiotics in the meat when these animals eliminate, even the plants are taking up antibiotics.  But what that cause is a level of gut inflammation.  Now most people probably don’t understand how that would feel, but most people have some familiarity when someone has appendicitis for instance.  You know, they have extreme tenderness in their gut.  Their abdomen is very, very rigid and that’s just simply what you’re describing as a viscerosomatic reflex from an inflamed appendix.  Another thing that people get familiar with is maybe someone with a kidney stone or kidney infection.  Their low back muscles get super, super tight and rigid.  And again, that’s just the organ reflexing back to the muscular system.  The stomach will do it as well.  The small intestines will do it as well.  The large–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  How about a heart attack–

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Intestine will do it–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  With the left arm-?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, there you go.  That’s–that’s probably the most known viscerosomatic reflex.  Yeah.  You know, suddenly someone feels shortness of breath and pain in their left arm.  You better get to it–you know, pop an aspirin and get to the emergency room as soon as possible, because that’s–that’s likely a very serious life-threatening circumstance.  So yeah, those are all great examples.  But you mentioned so many different things, you know.  You look at gluten and I have been putting people on a gluten-free diet for my entire 23 years in practice.  And even though there’s not a lot of people with celiac disease.  It’s about 1 in a 100 people that have celiac disease.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  What we now know is the study of dysbiosis, is that gluten actually promotes dysbiosis or bad growth of bugs in the gut.  And what I like to tell my patients is the difference between good bugs and bad bugs is what they eat and what they poop.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Mmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Good–good bugs eat poop and poop nutrients.  Bad bugs eat nutrients and poop toxins.  And those poison our system, increase inflammation, and decrease our performance, function, and wellness.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I love those little–those little one liners you have there.  I think you’re also famous for the one–the solution to pollution is dilution.  Was that you as well?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know, I’ve said it many, many times–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, okay.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  But I ca–cannot claim to be the original.  You know, if you–if you study the–the history of human sanitation, humans have lived near water bodies, guess what?  So they use that to dilute all of their wastes.  And they’ve–they’ve known that forever.  You know, the solution to pollution is dilution and where our body comes into place, we’re a closed system.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So our bodies will hold water when we’re toxic.  You know, you have plenty of people walk around, at the end of the day they have a ring around their ankle where their socks were.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Those are toxic people with extra fluid.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And also the–the allergic shiners around the eyes, too.  That’s notorious.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Absolutely.  Yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That last line you just said.  That was just profound.  So good bugs eat poop and excrete nutrition–

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Exactly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Where bad bugs eat nutrition and excrete poop.  Is that correct?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  It’s–that’s exactly that.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, that is just awesome.  Very good, very good.  So what are the main issues that you’re seeing in your practice today?  Is it fatigue, thyroid, adrenal, is it all of the above, a myriad of things?  What are the–what’s the average person walking into your office with today?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Well, you know, I see the whole gamut, right?  So for instance this morning I had two Olympic sprinters.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Wow.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And they were coming in for, you know, core balance and improve their performance and–and a little bit of lower extremity issues.  Last year–well, even this year, I–I don’t know that I’ve had a single athlete lose track time with a hamstring injury.  We’re really, really good with hamstrings, balancing the pelvis, doing some specific acupuncture work, extremity adjustments, where they have not lose track time.  But I’ve also seen a couple of people this morning with autoimmune disease.  I’ve seen some people with stage IV cancer, not today, that will be later on this week.  But when–when you look at these people, you know, the sad reality is is our medical system, as Mark Hyman likes to call–he’s a great functional medicine doctor–he says our system is the name it, blame it, and tame it system.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You–you name the disease, you blame the problem on it, and you try to tame it with a drug.  But reality is, fatigue is one of the signs of chronic poisoning.  It could also be related to thyroid dysfunction.  It could be related to adrenal distress which you mentioned.  It could be related to food allergy, to leaky gut.  It could be and often is related to insomnia and why do people have insomnia?  Most commonly because they’re running high stress and their brain doesn’t shut down at night.  So there’s so many different things we say, but whoever comes in to see me, I always let them know that one, we have to earn health and we do that by eating right, drinking right, thinking right, moving right, sleeping right, pooping right, talking right.  I like to call those a Magnificent Seven.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Seven, right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And e–even when you do the pristine lifestyle, you know, we know now that only 7% of American farmland is considered prime, so 93% of the time, the plants and animals that people are putting in our body are from deficient soils, deficient food sources intoxicated with either antibiotics, pesticides, overcides, in–insecticides, fungicides, and therefore, you know, we gotta clean out the body and supplement on a regular basis.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Supplementation–

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Is huge.  It’s because the soil is so devoid, the microbiota in the soil are destroyed and like you said, I think 70-80% of all antibiotics are fed to animals which then affects the plants, so then you have sick animals, sick plants, and my mentor, Paul Chek says, “You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit.  You gotta have quality nutrition to actually build a quality use.”  Is that correct?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, that’s exactly right.  By the way, I’m a big fan of Paul Chek as well as and what–the quote that I always share with Paul is, “If you’re not assessing, you’re guessing.”

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know?  So if I’m gonna address someone’s biochemical environment, then guess what?  I’m gonna test their chemistry.  I’m gonna get blood, saliva, and urine.  If I wanna stress their structure, I’m gonna sit them down.  I’m gonna do a really good structure evaluation.  And then there’s even wonderful things like energy medicine related to the acupuncture system and we have ways of assessing energy as well.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great.  So when you have patients coming in, what are the big, maybe 1 to 3 tests that you are commonly finding yourself running on patient?  Is it like an organic acid test or an adrenal cortisol rhythm test?  What are the test that you are doing yourself?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, I’m a massive fan of in-office diagnostics and–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So I do something called bio-terrain assessment.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  But if you ask about the big 3 tests, so we’ll share something about the adrenals, there’s a–there’s a new syndrome that’s been defined in–in the literature which is basically cortisol resistance.  So a lot of people might be familiar with insulin resistance–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And that means the body stops responding to insulin so it has to produce more and more and more, then ultimately the pancreas burns out.  It can’t make the insulin the body needs and leads towards diabetes.  Well, with cortisol resistance, most of us are running high levels of cortisol and ultimately our cells begin to ignore the signal of cortisol.  A lot of people come to think of cortisol as a bad molecule but it’s life essential–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  We die without cortisol.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Absolutely.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So it–as we become cortisol resistant, then the body does not use cortisol to control inflammation.  You get into a profound state of inflammation as well as leaky gut, suppressed immune system, so you know, part of our bio-terrain we have a number of markers for adrenal functional distress.  But a simple one is urinary chlorides.  There’s something called a Chronusberg? test that’s been around for a long, long time.  So as the adrenals become depleted, they actually start to spill–the patient spills more chloride into the urine.  And so as we assess that, we can tell how is the body responding to adrenal hormones.  So that’s gonna be a big one.  I do a test called bio-impedance analysis and in fact, I was just a co-author of a standard of care document on bio-impedance analysis.  But here’s a test that’s been around for over 40 years, has over 2,000 published studies, it takes about minute and it’s non-invasive.  We basically connect an electrode to the patient’s hands and feet, run a very slight electrical current through body, so slight that it’s not a contraindicator in pregnancy or pacemaker or anything like that.  And we take the two numbers that we measure, electrical resistance, capacitive reactance, and put it into a computer program along with the patient’s height, weight, age and sex.  And we’ll calculate lean tissue, fat tissue, water, and be able to tell whether the water is inside the cell or outside the cell, and a number called phase angle that’s actually published as a global health marker.  So in doing that test, we can compare every person to everybody else on the planet, and see where they fall in line.  The last thing I would say is we do a saliva pH challenge.  And it’s very, very simple.  You get a baseline of saliva pH and then by the way we do it first thing in the morning so the patient cannot have had anything to eat or drink.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  They don’t like the fact that we don’t let them brush their teeth and we’re not crazy about it either but we want good pure data.  And so once we get the baseline saliva then we give them an amount of pure lemon juice, have them swish in their mouth, swallow, that will immediately change the saliva pH to acid, and then over the next 5 minutes we measure the pH every single minute.  And–and so the–the body has at least 12 known buffers for acid.  In fact, all we do makes acid.  Our carbon–sorry, oxygen goes into the cell, carbon dioxide comes out.  It adds to water and the blood to form carbonic acid.  A hundred trillion cells doing that a trillion times a day, so all of our elimination routes get rid of acid.  When we’re looking at that saliva pH, we’re actually looking at the body’s strongest buffer against acid.  And that’s very, very important because as we become progressively acid, all of our processes become inefficient.  All of our hormones and enzymes become inefficient and at super high levels of acid, of course, the patient can die.  There’s a medical condition known as metabolic acidosis, but maybe more common than that and more extreme is we’ve now known for a long, long time that acid is the environment that promotes cancer.  So if you’re looking this in the US, we have the highest cancer rate in the world.  A man’s lifetime risk 1:2, woman is 1:3.  And I don’t think it’s by accident and it’s not because our diagnostics are better–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Is our food is so terrible, our water is so terrible, we’d engineered our activity out of daily life, and we just have a very sick population to the point where we spend sick care than anywhere else in the world and really get less in return from our investment because we bought into this paradigm that medicine is gonna fix us, not to cover up a symptom and a poor one at that.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Absolutely.  And you talked about metabolic acidosis and we know, at least our listeners should know that or we be aware that the pH of our blood should be right around 7.3, 7.35 and it’s pretty tightly regulated because our body is basically pH-driven active enzymes.  So when you’re talking about the pH going off, I think what you’re alluding to is that our body is gonna be using all these minerals, and using these minerals to buffer all of the acid, which then depletes all these minerals for creating energy in the mitochondria, Krebs cycle, blood sugar stability, is–was that kinda what you were trying to address there with the mineral deficiency there with the acidosis.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, absolutely, so you’re–you’re absolutely right.  The body has mineral buffers.  The body has protein buffers.  Well, we’re talking about saliva, we’re talking about what’s known as the bicarbonate buffer.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  But all of those buffering systems, as they become depleted, we become less efficient.  It’s estimated that human beings make 75,000 different enzymes and every single enzyme we have is depending on having the right amount of acid or alkaline in our system.  So yeah, as we deplete our buffers, then we just don’t feel good.  We don’t function good and in reality is we’re not good.  So that’s one of the things that we really work to change with people.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Now if we’re eating like a Paleo diet, we’re trying to eat grass-fed, organic beef, but we’re also trying to add in high quality organic, let’s say green vegetablesd as well.  Do we have to be worried about being too acidic with our meat consumption?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  No, no.   There’s plenty of studies that actually show that food really does not contribute to the acid burden within the body but it does contribute to buffering systems of the body.  So for instance, again we have a hundred trillion cells in our body, processing approximately a trillion molecules of oxygen.  When oxygen and fuel go into the cell, the waste product is carbon dioxide and that forms acid in the system.  So one of the premiere pharmacology journal said they estimate the average person just through normal daily activity creates about 15,000 units of acid.  When you look at the weak acids in amino acids and fatty acids, or even things like citric acid, they suggested–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  For the average person, that’s less than 100,000 units of acid.  So we’re comparing maybe 100 that we ingest to 15,000 that we make.  So food is not really the contributor to acid burden but high quality foods help us make the proteins, the phosphates, have the mineral components to help us build our buffering systems.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Would you say eating lots of refined sugar or maybe food allergens, would that drive more to the acids in our diet?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Well, that’s what’s killing us.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Okay.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know, when–when you start looking at refined sugar, you know, this is something that I’ve studied and lectured on for an extended period of time, but now they have functional MRIs.  In 1800 in England, the average person ate about 5 lbs of processed sugar a year.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Now in the United States, we peak at 159 lbs per person per year in 1999.  Well, we’ve gone down over the last 16 years, but what people need to understand is we replaced pure sugar with artificial sweeteners.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And now the data shows that people that ingest artificial sweeteners gain more weight than people that eat pure sugar, and it’s because they actually create a very, very toxic microbiome–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Or in the case of dysbiosis, bad bugs in their gut, and the toxins generated by these bugs create inflammation and promote weight gain and diabetes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, it really comes down to the gut and then we also know 70-80% of the immune systems in the gall to the MALT at our intestines, in our stomach and in the small intestines, which then immune suppression, more antibiotics, and then cancer and all these other immuno-compromising conditions, and you know, autoimmune conditions are on the rise, too.  So it’s like this vicious cycle where we’re just set up perfectly for it in a bad way.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know what, I–I just gave a lecture on the immune system a week ago at a major conference.  And the bottom line is, when you look at women, they get a lot more auto-immunity than men.  Estrogens promote auto-immunity, androgens protect.  That’s where they have the literature.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Ah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Now you–you might that most guys would be okay then, but understand that most guys are low in androgens.  We’re so intoxicated by foreign estrogens in plastics, pesticides injected in the animals that men are much less manly than they once were.  You see, where they have this whole, you know, pandemic of–of low testosterone or low T as they like to call it.  Guys are getting more and more autoimmune disease and, yeah, I like to quote the Journal of Autoimmunity in 2008, and what they said very simply is “cell injury precedes autoimmune disease whether it’s from an infection, a chemical, a food reaction, or even a physical trauma”.  So our immune system’s job is to kill bad cells and if it perceives one of our cells as a threat, it’s gonna take it out.  And it doesn’t do that for normal cells, it does it for abnormal cells.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So the natural solution is let’s make the body healthy and then there’s no reason for the immune system to be on such an attack mode.  Every one of us has antibodies against our own cells.  Over a hundred antibody types and they’re associated with good health in advancing years.  They did a study years ago on 100-year-old people that were, you know, they had some longevity obviously to them and were moderately healthy and they compared those to, you know, 40-year-old people that were not healthy and the 40-year-olds across the board had more antibodies against their own tissue than did the 100-year-olds that were healthy.  So they had less healthy cells, the immune system said, “Hmm, that’s the threat.  I’m gonna kill it to try to protect the body.”  So a whole different picture on autoimmunity is emerging.  It’s not the immune system to blame.  It’s the toxic sick body that causes autoimmunity.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And I saw this in one of your lectures, Dr. Bob, you had like a–I think it was like an X and Y graph, and on one side you had like being totally immune comprised and then having the cancer being the verdict of one end of that spectrum and then you have the other where you’re so immune-sensitive where you’ve having an autoimmune condition because you’re–you are now attack–attacking self.  Does that ring a bell for you?  I know you have so many slides.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, yeah.  So–oh, no, no, no, no.  That’s one I’m very familiar with.  So when we look at the immune system, we realize that one needs to protect us from our own cells.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And then it needs to protect from outside the body.  Well, now, then there’s this–these conditions that they consider underprotection or what they’re calling overprotection.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So if you have underprotection against your own cells, guess what?  You get cancer.  And the new data is, I just posted to a PhD research of last month.  Andrew Keech, he says that the average person gets about 8 cancer cells every hour.  So we want the immune system to be vigilant, and by the way, the enemy to the immune system are stress and sugar, so we wanna keep those under control.  But if we don’t have or if we have too much attack against our own cells, they like to call that autoimmunity.  Reality is again it’s not the immune system that’s problematic but the bad cells.  When we have underprotection against foreign cells to our body, then we’re gonna get an infection.  Or if we have overprotection against foreign particles, that’s an allergen.  And so those are the types of immune response that you can get.  Underprotection against yourself, cancer.  Overprotection against yourself, autoimmunity.  Underprotection against the environment, infection.  Overprotection, allergy.  And there are basically 4 components that are known to be universal modulators to the immune system.  Vitamin D is one of them and that’s important because about a billion people around the planet are estimated to be just to have a frank Vitamin D deficiency even below acceptable levels but, you know, in my clinic, I see probably 85-90% of people don’t have an acceptable level of Vitamin D which most functional medicine practitioners agree is 50-70.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  50-70?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  There’s a Chinese herb called Ganoderma which is major modulator of the immune system proven against 7 different types of cancer, powerful energy modulator, great for autoimmunity as well as infection, and so that’s a major common modulator as is another Chinese botanical called perilisy?.  And then the last is actually an adrenal steroid which is called DHEA.  DHEA is a profound immune modulator.  So if you take a look, any autoimmune condi-condition that you can think about would encourage you go to PubMed and–and look at DHEA and lupus, DHEA and rheumatoid arthritis, DHEA and multiple sclerosis–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yup.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  It helps every one of these conditions and that suggests to me that that stress is a major trigger in these autoimmune circumstances.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, and DHEA about 50% of this is being produced by the adrenals which we know are our stress-handling glands.  So we the more stressed we are, the more sugar, the more inflamed, that output’s gonna be lower and lower and lower.  Is that correct?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Absolutely.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Absolutely.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And you mentioned at early–Ganoderma.  Is this is the same as Reishi mushroom?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, it goes by 3 different names.  It’s known as Ganoderma lucidum.  It’s also known as Reishi.  It’s also known as Lingzhi.  But it’s also been termed the Herb of Immortality and the ten-thousand-year mushroom.  It’s got–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yup.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  In my opinion, the most documented medicinal herb benefits of any herb that’s out there.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, and there’s also a fair amount of studies on it being combined with astragalus.  Are you familiar with the–the synergy in the herb together?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, absolutely.  And-and so you know, the very first book that I wrote a foreword and I’m approaching 20 books that I wrote forewords to, was a book called Herbal Virtues.  And here’s the first line, “There is a synergy in nature that can’t be duplicated and can’t be isolated.”  So, you know, the pharmaceutical companies say, “Wow!”  You know, “These plants work good.  Let’s isolate the component.  Let’s find a way to synthesize it in the lab and tweak it so we can patent it,” and then they lose all the synergy.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Since then.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So within the whole plant itself is synergy but then you’re right.  There’s plenty of herbs that work beautifully together.  Ganoderma and astragulus work remarkably well.  We’ve seen and added it to echinacea–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  In a way that works remarkably well.  So yeah, we’re–we’re massive fans of high quality herbs.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah, I’m as well, and Reishi is one of those herbs I use in a lot of my–in my practice especially with Epstein-Barr patients and Reishi is in the literature for a while in Asian countries.  I think it’s the first line in therapy for liver cancer in Japan.  Are you aware of that?  I’ve seen some–

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  I–you know what, I’m not familiar with Japan.  In the US literature, I’ve read over 500 PubMed studies on Reishi and Ganoderma and the seven cancers that the US literature are leukemia, lymphoma, multiple myeloma, breast cancer, inflammatory breast cancer, and melanoma.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Wow.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And they are literally peer reviewed medical studies but given that they also have peer reviewed studies that show that Ganoderma increases the function of natural killer cells and those are the cells that kill cancer in fact–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Cancer cells as well as viral-infected cells.  It makes sense that it would be first line in therapy for any and all cancers.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Absolutely, it should be.  Now did I hear that you came out with a coffee with that Ganoderma in it?  Is that correct?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Oh, I wish– No, I wish that was my genius that came up with that coffee but no, there is a company that has the coffee.  They patented the ability to put Ganoderma in coffee, tea, hot chocolate, soap, toothpaste, and so it’s an alkalizing coffee.  It controls inflammation, gives people an immune boost.  We share it with our patients and you know, across the board that they love it.  So yeah, it’s–it’s a magnificent coffee and if anybody wants to contact me about that, I–I think we’ll get my website–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Info at the end.  Thedrbob.com.  So–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Great, great.  And then also, are you running a CD57 immune count in any of your patients at all?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  I don’t.  But what I look at is what are the enemies of the immune system.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And the top two are gonna be stress and sugar.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Then we start getting toxins and sleep deprivation and so I’m–I think I’m going after at a higher level.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-huh.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  There’s certainly room to look at these precise things but what I find out and it’s through years of trial and error, is if you clean out the gut, clean up the diet, control the inflammation, manage the stress, get people to exercises a little bit, and a good night sleep, you know, the need to run outside lab goes away very, very quickly because every parameter that measure improves–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  It gets better.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Under those circumstances.  Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Very good.  And when you talked about the acid alkaline balance there, you mentioned that it’s not really gonna be affected much with high quality meats and–and good vegetables but it will be affected from the diet that’s bad.  The high sugar and the food allergens.  So that’s the part that’s gonna have the biggest effect on the pH, not necessarily the good stuff we’re eating.  Is that correct?  Did I hear you right?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, you know, it’s essentially a reaction to the food–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  That’s causing problems.  So anytime that you’re feeding dysbiosis or creating inflammation, you’re making yourself sick.  You’re making yourself acid, you’re taking away your energy efficiency.  You’re using body resources that could be, you know, used in to, you know, sing and dance and heal–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Because you’re having to deal with these reactions that you’re creating.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So, you know, I always tell people everything counts and you wanna choose wisely.  You know, what would–one of my favorite questions is what would the highest version of me do right here, right now.  And I do like to quote Og Mandino and at the very base of my–my life pyramid is–is love.  I also have–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Purpose and discipline but Og Mandino has a long dissertation on love.  But one of his lines is, “And most of all I will love myself for when I do, I will zealously inspect all things that I allow into my mind, my heart, my soul and my body.”  And if people are doing that, they have a leg up on the rest of the world because we’re not zealously inspecting.  We’re–we’re breathing air which is not clean.  We’re drinking water which is terrible.  We’re eating food which is toxic and depleted and we’re paying a massive price to tune of almost $9,000 per every man, woman, and child in the US in terms of sick care.  And it’s gotta stop because it’s not sustainable.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great.  Wow!  That’s a really great quote by–by Og Mandino there.  I like that.  I ought to write that one down.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  I’ll send it to you.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Very good.  Very good.  Now how do you get access to or how do you structure your life in a way where you can take in all of these extra studies?  Do you have like a Google Scholar Alert?  How do you extract all this information from a scientific literature without being overwhelmed, too overwhelmed?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know what, it’s just a simple discipline.  It’s something that I’ve done for at this point 23 years but, you know, with most of these peer reviewed medical journals, you can have them send you, free of charge the table of contents every time they publish.  So I’ll go ahead and I’ll look at the table of contents and I’ll find the article which is interesting and then you can almost always get the abstract and if the abstract is really interesting, guess what, I’ll–I’ll buy the article.  But I typically budget between 5 and 10 hours a week, every single week, except 2 weeks’ vacation a year, to study.  And–and so it comes out to a lot of really good study that moves me forward and keeps me on the cutting edge, and I’ll quote Confucius.  He says, “If you do what you love and love what you do, you’ll never work a day in your life.”  And I’ve always had passion about just staying just a little ahead of the crowd so I can always bring my patients the best of the best and quite often, they’ll come in to me, and they’ll ask, “Hey, what’d you learn lately?”  And I’ve always got something to share.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Well, that’s great.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  It’s always beautiful.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  And are you using Medscape or–or PubMed to extract this, or–?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Pub–PubMed.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  PubMed.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  PubMed is my go-to.  It’s–and there’s–there’s a reason for that.  You know, I–I have been hired as an expert witness for natural cases and by the way, all–all three times, my cases have won.  People were being sued for–for frivolous things, you know, about possibility errors in natural medicine and the data is very, very clear that natural medicine is powerful.  So these PubMed citations for peer reviewed journals basically are accepted as facts that will stand up in a court of law.  So when I teach license or go to seminars which I do to doctors all over the world, I need to have data that basically is peer reviewed and PubMed does that.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Ah, very good.  Excellent.  So the nice thing about you, Dr. Bob, is you practice what you preach.  You walk your talk.  You look your part and a lot of doctors, a lot of nutritionists, a lot of healthcare providers out there don’t do that.  So could you give kind of our listeners a window into what your life is like?  What–What time do you get up, what do you eat?  Just kinda give us a rundown of your day–

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, sure.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  What’s that being about everything, stress, exercise, the whole nine yards.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Let’s–let’s start with sleep.  It’s absolutely critical.  So I’m in bed by 9:30 every night.  The last hour is wind down.  I usually read for about the last 30 minutes.  It’s lights out.  I get up at 5:30.  You know, I get up.  I brush my teeth.  I have good organic toothpaste, right?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  That has Ganoderma in it.  I do some oil swishing with–with coconut oil.  Oil pulling is really, really good–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  For oral health as well as the rest of you.  I’ll drink a nice cup of organo–organic, you know, Ganoderma coffee.  I’ll do some reading then I’ll do some meditation.  I’ll wake up.  I’ll be very, very thankful.  I read the devotional.  I make sure I thank God for all the beauty in my life and all the good around me and then ask him for help throughout the day.  You know, then I start my stretching and I–and I do my own private martial arts training for anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour every single morning.  I take a nice shower.  See my first patient at 7—I’m gonna have my first meal sometime after the office and I have all kinds of wonderful delicious smoothies, you know, so I have different medical foods that can support detoxification, control inflammation, colostrum which is really, really good to heal the gut, Vitamin D, probiotics, organic super foods, fruits, vegetables, and put them all in that smoothie and I drink it.  And you know, there’s–there’s probably a reason for doing it at the office.  One is incredibly convenient, but patients see me doing that, you know, and they’ll just simply ask me, “What is that?”  And I, “Would you like to try it?”  And–and I’ve learned a long, long time ago.  I drink things that probably people wouldn’t think about drinking, because it doesn’t taste good, but my latest round of smoothies and for the last couple of years have been purely delicious, you know.  So when we show patients a way that they can drink the most delicious and nutritious smoothie, you know, that they can possibly have, then–then they’re in.  You know, and it–it’s just by simply changing to that, their life gets better.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Are you using–

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So I’m–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Sorry to interrupt.  Are you using Vitamix blender there or just a regular blender?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know what, we just have a Bullet in the office.  Well, Vitamix is awesome, but in the office we have a Bullet.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Great.  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So, it is easy and inexpensive.  Patients can replicate it relatively easy at home.  You know, I–I’ve been blessed that I’m ahead of my life in terms of practice and–and investments and multiple businesses so I–I have pure joy in practice so I work from 7 to noon, Monday through Thursdays and Wednesdays is my long day also at 2 to 5.  So a couple of days a week I’ll do some private training with a–with a world-class trainer.  I’ll even Jay Armstrong a plug.  He’s–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Absolutely fantastic and then my grandmaster in–in Mixed Martial Arts is Alm–Al Garza who is an 8th degree black belt in 4 different black belts and in fact last week I even did 2 days of training with a world-champion in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.  So besides that type of training, you know, I’ll do my own stretching.  I’ll do my own cardio.  When it comes to connecting with my family–I read a book last year called The Five-Minute Rule and it’s interesting what you can accomplish in 5 minutes with this book, it just came to the point, you know what, we got people that are important in our lives, take 5 minutes–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  5 minutes, one on one, connect with them.  You know, I’ve got 3 beautiful children.  My son is–is 21, he’s got, you know, incredibly successful in his own business and has his own home.  But we’ll still connect 5 minutes a day.  My girls, 18 and 16, we’ll connect.  My beautiful wife, at least 5 minutes, and–and I’ve been married to the same wonderful woman, Kelly, for going on 27 years–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Wow.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And you know, as happy–as happy as we’ve ever been.  So–and which kinda reminds me, you know, I listened to a TED talk and I love TED talks and I highly–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Promote them.  But the gentleman was talking about how to find your life purpose in 5 seconds or less.  That was the title of it and he was a Yale grad, and he went to his 25-year reunion and he said, you know what, all these people from Yale, they had success in the business world.  He said but really only about 25% of them were happy.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And the people that were happy were following their passion, the people that were miserable were chasing the dollar.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So, you know, if I could get everybody that’s–that’s on the other end of this one way or the other, it will be to encourage them.  Do what you love, love what you do.  Find your passion, be excellent at everything.  Give everything your best because that’s ultimately our purpose.  Our purpose is to be our highest self at every moment.  And when we do that, we make the world better.  So if your passion is health, listen, share this information, share the podcast, walk in, you know, listen to this on a weekly basis.  Go on and look and see, you know, you like in terms of online.  I’ve got plenty of education materials that I’m more than happy to–to share and I’ve sold those for, you know, 20+ years around the world.  But find your passion, follow it, live life to the fullest, and try to help everybody around you do the same thing.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Very good, excellent.  And how did you get into lecturing?  Because you’ve been lecturing so long.  How did that reveal itself or what inspired you to go in that direction?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Well, you know, let me–let me first say that my first career was–was not a success in my mind.  I graduated second in my class in electrical engineering.  I did it because I had a scholarship through a very prestigious school but never really liked it.  And so I–I realized I wanted to be a chiropractor.  So I went back to school and I talked to my chiropractor and I said, “I wanna be successful.  I wanna be good.  What do I do?”  And he said, “Here’s what you do.  You listen to people who are successful.”

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  He says, “When you’re in school, they’re gonna teach you to get a license, that’s good.  They’ll teach you the ins and outs, the rules.”  He says, “But you need to go visit successful chiropractors.”  So I did.  I spent so much time talking to successful doctors.  So when I got into the student clinic, I literally had a waiting list practice.  I finished all my credits in 6 weeks and the students were–were shocked.  You know, they said, “Wow! Would you consider, you know, teaching a seminar about how you did that?”  I said, “Sure.”  So I literally had 60 people show up on a Saturday morning, pay me $200 to learn what I had learned from all these great doctors, and I said, “Just follow around great people.”  Well, after I talked that seminar, I promoted a lot of clinical nutrition.  I got sponsored by a nutrition company.  So they started promoting seminars around.  And I–I had a passion for teaching.  I certainly had a passion for health so I didn’t show up unprepared and–and say, “Oh, let’s talk.”  I had complete, solid, thorough outline, reference, with solid goals about how I wanted to move people forward to improve their practice and improve their life.  Well, then I got sponsored by another nutrition company that literally took me all over the world.  You know, so I’ve been in North America, South America, or Caribbean islands, Hawaii, Europe, Africa, I haven’t done Asia yet nor–nor the North Pole or South Pole, but yeah, those are on my radar.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So, but you know, B. J. Palmer said it best.  You know, I got on fire about chiropractic and people came from all over to watch me burn. And that’s what I’d like to think people would describe about my passion for health, you know.  I-I love it.  I live it.  I share it.  And I keep growing and you know, my world is certainly better for being guided by really good people.  So I thank you be for being a guiding light to so many out there now.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh, thank you so much.  And I’m so happy to see that you got a website because I know for the longest time you were like incognito.  You were this guy that you had to get like a referral to even get in there.  Yeah, you know, but I finally caught up, right?  I think and I probably need to improve that some as well.  But reality is, it’s a really good friend of mine and–and you put it together, he said, “Pop, come on, you need a website.”  It’s like, oh yeah, all my patients are referred and I’m fine.  And he’s like, “No, no, no.  Let’s put together a website for you.”  So you know what, that–that’s a good thing and there’s a book out there called An Army of Davids.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  And it basically talks about how the little guy with social media and a good web presence, you know, the big guy can’t keep up because the little guy can serve, and so you’re excellent at that.  I’ll compliment you again and again, and that’s certainly a lot that I can learn from you on that but we have a web presence and–and it’s growing.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great.  Thanks, Doc.  Thanks.  So the average person that’s watching this show.  We get a lot of biohackers.  People are–they’re testing this.  They’re taking supplements.  They understand the value of sleep and diet, so speaking to that person, right?  They’re already doing so many things right.  What are 3 things that you think based on that person that’s already listening that you would recommend to improve performance, energy, vitality, libido, cognition, brain power, the whole nine yards.  What would those 3 things be?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Well, I’m gonna go to a book called The Talent Code and–and The Talent Code said the very best of the best have 3 things in common.  They have passion.  The have discipline for hard work, and they have master coaching.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Uh-hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So, you know, you mentioned guys like Paul Chek.  He’s a master coach.  Charles Poliquin is a master coach.  Jay Armstrong is a master coach.  You’re a master coach for nutrition and lifestyle.  But you need a coach because there’s only so far you can go on yourself and you know, it’s really, really hard to see where you need to improve.  So number one, get someone and really maybe a coach in every area of your life.  I listen to a gentleman by the name of Harven Mackay.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Hmm.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  His first bestseller was called how to swim with the sharks and not get eaten alive.  But this guy has more coaches than anybody I could imagine.  He’s got a voice coach.  He’s got a tennis coach.  He’s got a speech coach.  He’s got a singing coach.  He’s got, you know, a business coach.  But he says, “You know what in my life.”  He says, “I’ve never spent a nickel on coaching.”  Now he says, “I’ve invested millions and it’s made me hundreds of millions.”

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Wow.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So you don’t wanna look at that as an expenditure but an investment.  So invest in yourself, invest in coaches.  The next thing is I think a lot of people are doing really, really well in terms of quality of what they’re putting in their body.  At least I hope that they are.  But now if you’re not assessing, you’re guessing.  So it’s gonna go back to a–to almost a coach mindset again but get a solid thorough functional assessment and see what kind of I’s you can dot and T’s you can cross because again, you know, I see world-class athletes.  I see people that run in subten-second hundred meters and within 2 weeks of just fine tuning them in terms of their chemistry or structure and/or structure, we get them getting their own personal best.  So pick what you have a passion for, get a coach for that.  Get a coach for your chemistry.  Get a coach for your structure and that’s gonna be the big start.  Passion, chemistry, structure, you’re gonna win in life if you have good guidance.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great and that was number 3 you said right there?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, yeah, well I’m gonna go–I’m–each 3, and I’m gonna go with coaches–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  But I’m gonna have life coach, I’m gonna have a chemistry, and I’m gonna have a structure coach and I–I’m kinda blessed and that I serve as two of those coaches, right in terms of chemistry and structure, but you know, in terms of whatever you have a passion for, get a solid mentor or coach in that area as well.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  That’s great.  So you do a lot of seminars, how do our listeners find out more about you.  I know you have a big strength and conditioning or sports performance seminar coming up at Montreal, can you talk about that?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, absolutely.  So I’ve taught sports nutrition, you know, for about 20 years and Montreal’s a great market.  I–there’s a former Mr. Universe out there, Roberto Sabatini who I’m great friends with; Ryan Hawkins, another Poliquin/Chek trainer, brilliant guys that help promote their–I probably need to get a better–better look on my website.  I’m doing lectures for something called Northwestern Health Sciences University so if you Google Dr. Bob Rakowski seminar, you’ll probably find something and I probably need to get a better–better listing on my Facebook page as well as on my website.  But if you Google me, you’ll find that I’m in a lot places.  I teach between 40 and dif–and 50 different events a year, whether we’re talking about nutrition, performance, kinesiology, I’ve got it all.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Right.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  So the seminars on sports performance I share the things that I’ve done with world-class athletes and Weekend Warriors to make them better with really hard-hitting solid clinical strategies for both assessments and intervention.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Is that seminar also gonna be available via audio as well?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know, I don’t know that I’m gonna record that one but I do have a recorded version of sports nutrition that is available already, yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  I’m gonna have to pick that one up.  That’s great.  At this time–

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  You know what, my–my gift to you.  I’m gonna send you–I’m gonna send you a Dropbox right after this–

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Oh.

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Because I certainly appreciate you.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Thank you so much and that talk is gonna be Montreal, Canada, Saturday, March 28th at 8 to 5, and we’ll put this out ASAP so it’s–it’s relevant to anyone that wants to–to hear more about this.  And you also teach applied kinesiology courses up in, I think, Minnesota which will be relevant to–to more of the healthcare professionals that are listening.  And then what about the average person that just wants to get more about you?  Thedrbob.com is the website.  Anything else that–that’s more relevant to the average maybe patient that wants to come down and visit you.  I think you also do phone consults, too?  Any more information about that?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Yeah, all those things are available.  You know, thedrbob.com has patient consult paperwork that they can fill out.  One of the things that I like to tell people is there’s–there’s magic to actually seeing a person, touching a person, interacting with a person, sensing their energy, and–and sometimes we overlook the intuitive part of it, but you know, I have such a strong preference for being face-to-face with someone but with that said, you know, I’ve done Skype with Singapore and South America, you know, halfway around the world where we’ve–we’ve had good outcome so if it’s feasible to come see me that’s always best, but if not, fill out the paperwork, let’s connect.  Let’s talk.  I have so many different audios that now have been recorded over the years that are available by–by mp3 and Dropbox that we can get to people.  I’ve got a 48-hour series in nutrition.  I’ve got some brief lectures, nutrition and cancer, stress, blood sugar, dysregulation, endocrine imbalance, almost any topic you could think of, we’ve got.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Well, that’s great.  I truly believe you are one of the best experts in the world in this form–in functional medicine and human health and performance so I appreciate you being on the show and sharing everything, all those great information with our listeners.  Is there any closing words, Dr. Bob?

Dr. Robert Rakowski:  Well, I’m gonna let you know that I certainly appreciate the way you make our world better.  Thank you for giving me an opportunity to share and you know, I’m gonna keep telling everybody, do what you love, love what you do, seek to be your highest self, make our world better, and we’re all gonna get better.




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