In this episode, Dr. Justin Marchegiani and Evan Brand discuss inflammation—what causes it, how it works biochemically, and how to reduce it naturally. They compare common medications like NSAIDs, cortisone injections, and Tylenol to safer, research-backed natural compounds. Their main message: inflammation itself isn’t bad, but chronic inflammation without addressing the root cause (especially gut health) leads to long-term damage.
Inflammation is normal for healing, but chronic inflammation causes long-term damage.
NSAIDs, cortisone, and Tylenol can reduce pain but carry gut, liver, blood sugar, and tissue risks.
Natural compounds like curcumin, boswellia, ginger, magnesium, fish oil, NAC, and systemic enzymes help modulate inflammatory pathways more safely.
Red light therapy, sauna, Epsom salt baths, massage, and swimming support tissue recovery and pliability.
Chronic inflammation often stems from root causes such as gut infections, parasites, mold, Lyme disease, poor diet, blood sugar imbalance, or hormonal dysfunction.
Focus on fixing the root cause first, and use medications only when necessary.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: [00:00:00] Hey guys, it's Dr. Justin Marjani. Welcome to the Beyond Wellness Radio podcast. Feel free and head over to justin health.com. We have all of our podcast transcriptions there, as well as video series on different health topics ranging from thyroid to hormones, ketogenic diets, and gluten. While you're there, you can also schedule a consult with myself, Dr.
J, and or our colleagues and staff
Evan Brand: to help dive into any pressing health issues you really wanna get to the root cause on. Again, if you enjoy the podcast, feel free and share the information with friends or family. And enjoy the show.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And we are live. It's out the j in the house with Evan Brand. Today we're gonna be talking all about inflammation, natural compounds to reduce inflammation.
We'll be talking about some of the bio biochemical pathways, what's happening under the hood getting to the root cause and looking at some of the side effects and maybe conventional medications and comparing it to some of the natural options that we have at our fingertips. Evan, how we doing?
Man?
Evan Brand: Hey man, I can't complain. So I took some herbals this morning and it definitely helps. I was lifting pretty this weekend, and it's not that you [00:01:00] have to wait for pain, but if you feel inflammation, if you feel irritation, you feel stiff, you might as well go ahead and take some of these. So we're gonna break down some of the options, some of the different enzymes that we can use.
And this is stuff that's readily available on. Fullscript. So we use Fullscript to provide things that we don't manufacture. We have our whole line, Dr. J has a line, I have a line. We have our own professional formulas, and sometimes we'll use other companies as well. So there's 10 or 20 different professional companies that we'll rotate through.
And I took a formula this morning that will break down today, which contains things like turmeric, ginger, boswellia. Quercetin, Rosemary, there's a handful that have a lot of good papers, and so we dug into some of the literature today and we'll share that with you all. That way you understand, what do you do?
That way you're not going and getting a cortisone shot. Maybe you can riff on that, 'cause I know you're pretty well versed in this stuff. What's the issue with the cortisone shots? 'cause you hear that anybody above 40 or 50 who's had a knee issue, that's the first thing [00:02:00] doctors run to is cortisone shot.
Why do you think that's just long-term not gonna be a good.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Great question out of the gate. First thing, anyone that knows me, I play a lot of pickleball for the last maybe seven, eight months. I've been playing maybe three times a week, two hours outta whack. And when you're playing hard, man, you can get inflamed afterwards.
And I see a lot of people that have, tennis elbow, that medial epicondylitis, right? That's this muscle right here by the Oma, and it can really pinch out that nerve and create a lot of inflammation and radiculopathy, pain, and people will go and run to a cortisone injection. I just said you're not fixing the underlying cause.
And so because you're not fixing the tissue quality, you're not improving pliability, you're not doing either prehab or doing a good post hab, soft tissue. Protocol afterwards to help that tissue become less inflamed. That now you're forever dependent upon that if that injection, if the root cause is not addressed.
And anyone that knows cortisone injections after two or three, they're done because of the side effects of it breaking down tendons, ligaments, and cartilage. And so you're robing Peter to pay Paul. And so if you had an acute injury [00:03:00] and you know the root cause is isolated, it's not gonna happen. And if you're in a lot of pain, that may make sense.
Acutely. But I always tell people, you better make sure you figure out what the underlying cause is and work on doing things now to prevent it from happening. 'cause if not, once you go back to a second or third, you're screwed. 'cause they'll end up pulling it back. And then now what? Now? Is it Gabapentin now?
Is it other medications that are gonna be. More dangerous. Are you gonna be on ibuprofen long term, which is gonna be a Cox two inhibitor, which impacts the gut, impacts the liver. Over 20,000 people a year. Take taking ibuprofen correctly. Die every year. That's a conservative estimate.
And
Evan Brand: and what do you think that is? What's the mechanism there? Is it just internal bleeding or
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It's the COX two enzyme. That enzyme is very important for our stomach vascular health, liver health regeneration. And so when you're overly suppressing that enzyme, those Cox pathways go to infl inflammation, but they're also very important.
That enzyme, that cyclooxygenase, that's the COX enzyme we're talking about, that is also [00:04:00] very important for inflammation. But it's also very important for regeneration of certain tissues that ibuprofen damages, gut, liver, heart, and so it's fine. These medications are fine acutely, but long term they can create depletion.
And then acetaminophen, Tylenol, this has been around for a very long time. Tylenol up in the seventies and the sixties, they were using IV NA and acetyl cysteine to take people outta Tylenol. Liver failure because Tylenol has a major liver stress component, which you'll liver failure if day too much and Tylenol Acetaminophen.
Basically when you take it, it depletes all of your glutathione like right away. So I tell people, always go to NSAID first, like an ibuprofen first, and then if you need to go to Tylenol, make sure you take NAC and or glutathione with it. Because once you deplete your oxidative stress, now your oxidative pathways.
Are no longer there. And then your liver is basically flying naked, so to speak. So it can be damaged by all kinds of different things. 'cause now it doesn't have the ability to buffer all of these nasty oxidative [00:05:00] compounds.
Evan Brand: Yeah. So if you're listening, if you are playing pickleball, or even if you're not, what, maybe you just literally, I don't know, did something silly and hurt your shoulder.
Hurts your arm. I'm not saying. Never take a painkiller, but truthfully, I don't even have it in my house. I might have a die free low dose aspirin or something in the back cabinet somewhere just in case. Honestly, I don't even know if I have it or not. So overall, I've had such great success. I don't even know if we're gonna be able to use the P-E-P-T-I-D-E word soon.
Oh
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: yeah.
Evan Brand: Yeah, I don't know if I told you about that, but that's been very helpful for me to take the BPC. And I had a video deleted from my Instagram page, even though I posted it last year, the video was deleted and I got banned for one year for doing live videos on my Instagram page. And then I was unable to Really?
Yeah. And yeah, for one year, and I was unable to message people for a week, and I literally said, nothing in the video, but here's what this does and here's how it can help you. So we'll just call it the, the oral inflammatory capsules that rhymes with reptoids. Okay. Yeah that's what I've [00:06:00] taken and it's been very helpful.
But yeah what I'm saying is I've had such great success with those that I haven't needed. The aspirins, the ibuprofen. Yes. The what do you got? Aleve, which I've heard Aleve is probably the worst. So yeah, it's just the glutathione depletion and all that. It's just. It's so unattractive to me that I just don't even mess with that stuff.
And I want you to know that there's also topical things you can do. So Dr. J and I we're gonna riff on some of the internal things you can do, but then also the topical, so the topicals can be great.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, I lost you here for a minute. I'm gonna riff when until you come back. Let's see. So a couple of different, P-E-P-T-I-D-E-S, right?
KPV is one BPC 1 5 7 TB 500. These are great options that are much better to use acutely than some of the steroids. And again, I'm not anti steroid. Just ask yourself the question, are you getting to the root underlying cause if you have to. 'cause you're absolutely desperate. Just make sure you're working with a good chiro, a good PT to work on the soft tissue quality like I did pickleball for an hour and a half.
And I get a little bit of lower back strain and I'm in this [00:07:00] half squat position paddling, and so I got a nice little red light belt, red and infrared light. It may blind you here, right? We're getting those waves right to the camera. Red light and infrared, very anti-inflammatory. And so put it right on my tissue.
Also, I have my.
Evan Brand: Do you want that on your skin or you
could,
Evan Brand: you could. Is it gonna go
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: through the
Evan Brand: shirt?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It will go a little bit Infrared can, but yeah, for some of the red light you can put up against your skin. And then I'll do my rag, I love the rag gun because it's deep and, if you got a, I'm here I'm shortening lengthening, look for my pronator, shortening, lengthening, shortening, lengthening, coming through here, doing this kind of thing.
Someone that has an elbow injury, for instance, we're working on pliability. Lower back. We're working on pliability, maybe we're doing some heat, some infrared red light, pre and post to get tissue necks, imp, pliable, and soft. But this is like root cause stuff, right? You get the tissue more pliable, you get it stronger, you get it healthier.
And then your need for pain relieving medications where steroids goes way, way down.
Evan Brand: Yeah. Yeah. The sauna [00:08:00] for me is helpful too 'cause I've got the infrared, I've got the near the far infrared, the full spectrum. That's been too in. Great. Yeah. I
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: love it. And hot tub. Hot tub's great. 'cause you're just loosening all the tissues up.
I'm a huge fan of heat. Heat is great. Now where heat maybe not is the best, like for an acute injury, you're really bang something and it's really swollen. Maybe the heat kind of prolongs that. If you just do cold after just general stuff, and you walk around, you're just so stiff. It's oh, where cold makes sense is like a cold plunge where it's very acute, it's very systemic, and then maybe you're out, you're back in a hot tub, you're back getting warm again.
That's where cold, I think, can shine, but cold chronically, unless it's a very acute injury, I just feel more stiff. Less limber, less pliable afterwards.
Evan Brand: I agree. And this is something that can apply to people that have mold and Lyme. Also, I've talked about my history with dealing with some of these issues, and I'll tell you it's not fun, but you can certainly improve yourself by just knocking some of these infl inflammatory [00:09:00] cytokines down.
I'm gonna pull up this sheet. Let's see if we can share some of this because. We've got some good data backing this stuff up. This is not just
Random things here. So let me see if I can share this window. 'cause it actually breaks down a lot of these different pathways. Curcumin, turmeric, it's gonna be the most famous one.
If you look here, it's talking about TNF alpha Interleukin one. Yep. NF kappa Beta. It also shows boswellia, which we love, also known as Indian frankincense. This is a great one here. Wonderful. Possess, wonderful anti-inflammatory properties. And this has some in vivo, so being meaning in the body, some in vivo models here, and talking about significant.
Improvement in 120 days to reduce. H-S-C-R-P improves pain and stiffness compared to placebo patients with knee osteoarthritis. So if you're one of [00:10:00] those and I've got some family that's doing that, you're one of those family members like, oh, my knee if you're not taking this you're literally leaving benefits on the table.
And then Ginger right here. I love Ginger. You and I have talked about ginger for biofilm. There's so many good benefits here, but man, look at this here. It's saying here that it even restored levels of dismutase, catalase, and glutathione. How cool is that?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, Ginger's great anti biofilm. It also helps with motility, digestive motility, help with gut inflammation.
When you look at a lot of these things whether it's. Ibuprofen, right? That's working more on the Cox two pathways or nuclear factor kappa beta signaling, or different interleukins or cytokines. That's typically what's happening with a lot of these compounds. Now you gotta, you're either Robin, Peter, to pay Paul, so with more of the natural compounds.
Don't get me wrong, ibuprofen works very well. That's actually helping to reduce inflammation. Tylenol is more of a central nervous system kind of suppressant, not quite reducing inflammation the same way as an NSAID is, right? So NSAID's, a non-steroidal [00:11:00] anti-inflammatory where like cortisone or hydrocortisone or prednisone, these are gonna be your.
Steroids. They're reducing inflammation at a much higher level. Even maybe more systemic if we're going prednisone, where cortisone injections are more localized. But when you start to do things that are more systemic, let's say someone had an ulcerative colitis IBD flare, right? Those things are gonna jack up your blood sugar.
You'll see your blood sugar that of a diabetic or twice that you're starting to break down tissue. It can even impact bone as well. And you can start to become osteo product when you use these things long term. So you gotta be very careful 'cause you're gonna increase blood sugar, which is gonna increase oxidative stress, which is gonna increase insulin.
It's gonna break down all your tissue, your health tissue, which makes you more prone to more injuries down the road. So we're trying to modulate these interleukin cyto. Nuclear factor kappa beta. Three best ways to do it outta the gate. Magnesium's actually. Wonderful. Okay, so Epsom salt bath, right? It's gonna open the calcium.
It's a calcium antagonist, so it's magnesium blocks the influx of calcium into the cell via the [00:12:00] NMDA receptor and calcium channel. This prevents the trigger from many pro-inflammatory pathways to happen. This such causes a release of Substance P, which is basically what gets in the cell and makes you feel pain.
It activates the mast cells, so things like Epsom salt bath. It's wonderful. That also is gonna modulate nuclear factor kappa beta. It's gonna also reduce the TNF alpha interleukin six. It's gonna reduce your highly sensitive C-reactive protein, H-S-C-R-P, which is a marker of systemic inflammation. It's also gonna reduce oxidize.
Stress, like you mentioned earlier, right? It's gonna decrease that super oxide dismutase, right? Which is very important. The super oxide is superoxide it. Mutate is what we wanna increase it. That's gonna actually be an antioxidant along with the glutathione. So oxidized stress goes down, superoxide, it's mutt.
Comes up and then of course it's gonna help with immune regulation, right? Prevents the overactivation of phagocytes, right? PHAG. And that's gonna be something that comes in there and it [00:13:00] gobbles up inflammation and damaged tissue. And we don't wanna do it too much 'cause then it can create too much inflammation.
Evan Brand: But go ahead. Yeah. So we hit I just wanna briefly mention other root causes that people may be struggling with because can you take Ginger and boswellia and turmeric, some of the things that we love and use personally and clinically? Can you take those and still never get to the root cause?
Absolutely. We still want you to look into your gut. We still want you to look for mold. Lyme, Bartonella, Babesia, there's a whole bunch of co-infections that can create issues. Years ago, it would hurt to just make a fist. Even for me just to go like this, I would have pain just arthritic like pain. I had three tick bites in one summer, and if you have more than one tick bite, you're pretty much guaranteed to have Borrelia just based on the data from tick report.com.
About half of the ticks in this country have and carry Lyme, which is Borrelia Borre. Now you're hearing a lot more about the.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So you're
Evan Brand: breaking up. I don't know if alpha g the whole, I don't know if the whole red meat allergy thing is related to gut inflammation, but I certainly wanna fix [00:14:00] it all. So
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: you're talking the Alpha gal
Evan Brand: Uhhuh?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. I just think it comes down to is gut permeability issues and just that makes things that you're, eating more frequently, maybe more sensitive to, from an allergy standpoint.
Evan Brand: Yeah,
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: so I think it all comes down to fixing the gut when it comes to a lot of the autoimmune inflammation. And that's where a carnivore diet can be super helpful because some of these allergens you can be sensitive to a lot of the antinutrients in plants, whether it's lectins, Tates, oxalates, salicylates.
These can be very allergenic, if you will, looking at systemic inflammation. We, if it's in our body from our exercise, we wanna have a good pre or post workout. The older you get, your tissue loses pliability, so you don't have the ability to adapt. Like I watched my kids the other day and one was just like, we're just roughhousing.
And he went down hard and he just popped back up. I'm like, damn. If that was me, I would just, I don't know if I'd be able to snap back and I. Their tissue is just more elastic, right? Yeah. It's more elastic. And so that's why we want to eat and consume good collagen, keep the inflammation down, right? We have more cross bridging of our proteins [00:15:00] with glucose that gets oxidized, right?
And so the more insulin and the higher your blood sugar is, that can crosslink your proteins and it just makes them more sticky and more rigid. So we want nice pliable tissue and, getting a good massage gun and having a good routine before you do really hard workouts, like my thera gun here.
Very helpful for making the tissue just softer. And then we wanna have our good anti-inflammatory nutrients. So we talked about some of the side effects with ibuprofen. We talked about some of the steroids. Of course, there's things like Remicade, which are gonna be more for like IBD issues, which are gonna be modulating, TNF alpha.
But TNF alpha is also really important for like energy pathways and mitochondria and mood stuff. And so when you take these things. You know you're gonna modulate TNF alpha, but now you're gonna have energy issues and maybe some mood issues and mitochondria problem. So you can see, you start to rob Peter to pay Paul and plus Remicade's very expensive.
IV of that, they're charging insurance company is almost $35,000 per iv, which is just freaking insane. Isn't that nuts? It's just crazy. And so we're gonna be [00:16:00] using two more, but
Evan Brand: I want people to know where this stuff's coming.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, I'll see it.
Evan Brand: Will you share this one?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yep.
Evan Brand: Okay. So this is what we're gonna be looking for on the functional medicine side, where we're gonna be doing labs.
So we're gonna look for these well-known, clinically proven
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: yep.
Evan Brand: Gastrointestinal pathogens that will trigger autoimmune issues including. RA and ankylosing spondylitis. Klebsiella, Proteus, citrobacter, yersinia. This stuff is linked to your gut, so you absolutely have to look here. Don't just take your turmeric and give up.
You gotta look into the gut bacteria and we can get this done worldwide. So if you have issues, let us help you test your gut.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Exactly, and again, we always wanna get to the root, but the thing I like about the thing I like about curcumin or boswellia or magnesium, people aren't dying from doing an epso offal bath.
They're not dying from more magnesium. They're not dying from more curcumin. Make it [00:17:00] liposomal for better absorption. They're not dying from more frankincense or boswellian, so I at least like that because the side effect profile is very low. The risk reward is much more in your favor, and so better option, but always say what's the underlying cause?
If there's autoimmune or IBD or something in the gut, we have to look at that and figure out how to get the gut healthier. Look at the microbes, look at the inflammation. Maybe your adrenals are depleted, maybe your DHEA and all your anaba hormones and your. Cortisol stress hormones are low and you need more support on the adrenal side because your adrenals are very much a very powerful anti-inflammatory support for the body.
Look at that. And then also things like good, healthy fats can be a big deal. If you're doing lots of processed seed oils, lots of processed grains, and you're not getting healthy saturated fats, healthy omega threes that are good quality, that can make a big difference for reducing inflammation as well.
Evan Brand: Man, will you pull this up one more time? I wanna share one more thing here, and just for the folks that are listening and are like, where is this inflammation coming from? We'll check this out. Reactive arthritis can be brought on by a urinary [00:18:00] infection with Proteus. So literally you can literally get a urinary infection that turns into arthritis.
So just FYI, if you're like, Hey, I don't have gut symptoms, it could literally be from that and females are much more likely to deal with this. And then you've got more bacterial issues. You've got chlamydia, salmonella, gel. Bacter Yesinia, Clostridium, which we see all the time. You've got parasites, including giardia, which I had many years ago.
Crypto. This probably explains some of my arthritis. I had both of these parasites years ago, right? Aggressive cases could evolve into ankylosing spondylitis. So that's the important thing here, is that some of these things may not be in the acute phase of Giardia. It may not be an autoimmune condition, but left alone and untreated.
Could definitely spin outta control. Look at this here. Klebsiella and Proteus, abnormal antibody responses can then turn into Crohn's, ulcerative colitis, ra. So you don't want to ignore these things. That's our whole philosophy here is test. Don't guess with your health and the reason why we focus.
We're not [00:19:00] gonna guess and throw a bunch of stuff at you.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, no, exactly. That makes sense. So we talked about our conventional stuff, right? Our NSAIDs, which are gonna be your ibuprofens, right? Your aspirins, which are gonna be a little bit similar that the, they all work on that COX one, cox two pathway.
They have a little bit more of an anti-platelet effect. So with aspirin you're gonna see the platelet reduction. So thins the blood out where ibuprofen doesn't quite have that same platelet reduction as long. And again, aspirin, it comes more natural. That's a salicylate, isn't it? Come from a. Typically a white willow bark with aspirin with kids.
You gotta be careful 'cause of rye syndrome where it can create some potential brain swelling and cause some consequences there if there's a viral infection going on. So be very careful with aspirin in kids. As an adult. It's okay, but much better off for a kid, maximize all the natural things, whether it's the Epsom salt bath or even a magnesium gel on the skin or a curcumin.
Or Boswellia or we've even talked about it briefly. These systemic enzymes can be wonderful, right? Systemic enzymes have a [00:20:00] major impact on reducing inflammation. They can decrease scar tissue, so it's nice 'cause they can help with pliability, right? Then some of these enzymes like s peptidase or nattokinase, they can modulate TNF alpha as well.
They can modulate different interleukins. They can help with alpha two microglobulin. And then they can break down some of the inflammation too, which they can improve pliability to your tissues as well and get the repair process going. 'cause your body will use scar tissue to kinda put the tissue back, but it makes the tissue stiffer and harder.
So it does help get the tissue more pliable and better in the future. So I like that.
Evan Brand: Yeah, don't get old. That's the goal here. Don't age your tissue and don't scar it up. You gotta keep this stuff pliable. I love you're talking about pliability. Most people don't bring this stuff up.
They just talk about what's the injection? I can get to fix it. But, swimming has been a game changer for me too. I just noticed so much in improvement in my back, the way I sleep, the way I move, the way I feel. I tell you, if I could pick one exercise for the rest of my life, it'd probably be swimming.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Swimming's great. 'cause you basically have only [00:21:00] eccentric contractions, so when you move, everything is about muscles getting longer, right? So when you move this way right, you're kinda like, you're like shortening your muscles, but when you go back this way, the resistance changes every direction that you move in the pool.
So it's a lot more eccentric, a lot less impact on the body, which is great. So just to one last thing is. Inflammation. It's not good or bad. It's basically there to tell your body, Hey, let's work on bringing blood flow to an area. Let's work on healing this area. It's when it's chronic and it doesn't really go away and you're in this pattern of you're not really laying down tissue to get the healing happening, and then it's just.
Prolong and there's more pain, and then pliability gets worse. Range of motion gets worse, things get stiffer, and then you're just on this slow path to degeneration. That's where it's a problem, and that's where you wanna have natural compounds come in to get the inflammation better. You wanna have the preventative pliability routines to get the pliability up, get the blood flow.
Dialed in and then you know, really be on top of the healing, so you're not having to go to these prednisones or [00:22:00] cortisone injections long term. That can really degrade your tissue, degrade your health and your immune system, right? Prednisone high blood sugar also equals weakened immune system as well.
Evan Brand: I love this stuff, man.
This is just so fun and so empowering. Once you have these tools, it makes you less fearful. It makes you more confident in going out and exercising. There's so many women that have told me, Hey, I'm afraid to go for a run, or I'm afraid to go to a lift. Class or to this class because I'm worried about how stiff I am or how much pain I'm in after, or the recovery period.
Yeah. When you have these tools, you just, it's just great. I just, I love this stuff, but ultimately you gotta fix your gut. You gotta look at your gut. Yeah. If you have a chronic issue, if you're listening or watching and you're trying to make a fist and you have pain there, there's something not right. You gotta look deeper.
Trust me. Yeah. I was there, I got through it, and maybe one day I'll be an old man and complain about this again. But for now, I'm much better than I used to be.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. And for your day in, day out, use your, your Percuss, right Rag Gum Pro. I did a video on this. I'll put a link down below red light, either a red light or infrared light [00:23:00] laser, whether it's a heating pad or a laser or a actual panel.
Those are great. Much better options, okay? Whether, and also your infrared sauna is wonderful. Then have your natural supplements. So anywhere between a gram or two of a good quality liposomal curcumin, fish oil boswellia two to three times a day is a pretty good rule of thumb with high quality supplements.
We can always do systemic enzymes like a Boswell like a nattokinase or s peptidase or lumbo kinase away from food twice a day can be wonderful. And then again, if you have to do like an nsaid, take it with food, take some NAC c your glutathione with it, right? Take some things that kind of support your gut.
Maybe. Maybe take some allo juice or some ginger with it. 'cause that can rip up your gut. So just, you gotta just be smart about it. We're not anti-medication, we're just pro root cause and pro more gentle things before you get to the harder medications. That's all.
Evan Brand: Yeah. Said. Said. If you want to dig deeper, look in the show notes or go directly to Dr.
Jay's website, which is. Just in health.com, you could reach out Worldwide. Consultations [00:24:00] are available, so we can look at your gut. Look at nutrient deficiencies. We didn't even cover that. We could riff on that for a whole hour. We could look at different infections, parasites, worms, bacteria, fungus, mold, you name it.
Dr. Jay's website, justin health.com. Yes. Me, Evan brand@evanbrand.com. EVAN, brand B-R-A-N-D Evan brand.com. Reach out to us, let us know how we can help you. We'd love to show you under the hood of your body things that unfortunately your conventional doctor is never gonna do. And number two, things that are never gonna show up on blood work.
Sure, you can see an H-S-C-R-P on blood, but you're not gonna see these type of infection load that we're talking about with your standard testing. So you have to go above and beyond. Correct. And we're doing this for. Fraction. We're doing this for one, 100th of the price of your celebrity doctors who appear on TV to talk about their expensive programs.
A hundred k plus a year. You're never gonna spend that. I don't even think in your lifetime you could spend a hundred k with us to investigate. It's just wild what we're seeing out there.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Some of those same [00:25:00] doctors are actually appearing in the Epstein files as well. How about that? That's a little, that's a little side note there.
Evan Brand: So there you go. So there you go. We are not in the Epstein files, by the way.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: No we are not. We are not. My, my life is way too boring for that. I got my pickleball and my water skiing, and my kids and my family and my wife. It's keep it simple, keep it real. Americana. But one last thing, weakened hormones.
So weakened adrenals menopause. Low T these can also decrease your body's ability to like repair tissue. So those should be looked at. Taking in connective tissue and collagen to get building blocks for your tissue is also very helpful 'cause we don't get like soups and broths and put the knuckles in the skins.
And then also for kids too, I find magnesium gels great for topical and a homeopathic called camelia. Yeah. Or arnica for kids, really young ones can be great for reducing pain, teething pain, especially when they're younger, like little headaches, bruises. That's great. We use our laser a lot with kids and things like that, so just try to find a good couple of options.
You don't have to go to the drugs every time. And of course if you go to a medication, go to the liquid. [00:26:00] Ibuprofen over a Tylenol. Dose it up according to your kiddos weight. Use the liquid one so you can dial it in perfectly. Stay away from the Tylenol based on the, one that's gotten political recently, but Tylenol has been known for the longest time to deplete glutathione and that can really make it.
Very stressful on a young child's body when there's very depleted glutathione levels happening.
Evan Brand: And if you're like what the heck is my glutathione level? Reach out. We can test it. We look at it all the time. NAC, vitamin C, B vitamins. We can measure all this
stuff.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Fabric, glutamate. Per glutamate, we can run a red blood cell glutathione.
All these are good options to look at. Awesome. Just assume it's low. Just assume it's low.
Evan Brand: Yeah.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: All
Evan Brand: exactly.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: NAC C is the easiest one that you can do outta the GA and NAC crosses the blood brain barrier and helps with any inflammation from glyphosate or mold. Toxins. Cross getting it into your brain too.
Metals too, great options there. Alright guys, wonderful chatting again. Reach out evan brand.com for Evan. He's available worldwide. He sees patients just like I do as well. We have our own product lines. We'll put links down below for some of the stuff we mentioned. And again, Dr. J just in health.com links below.
And you guys just [00:27:00] take this information, apply one thing and have an awesome day. Take care y'all. All
Evan Brand: right, take care.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Bye Evan. Bye-bye. Peace.
speak pipe
Rumble
Youtube
Apple
LIBSYN
Bitchute