Dr. Eric Zielinski – Essential oils for your health- Podcast #134

Dr. Justin Marchegiani and Dr. Eric Zielinski engage in a stimulating and inspiring discussion about essential oils. Gain useful information in choosing the right essential oil for you as Dr. Eric shares his experiences and research studies background supporting the use of essential oil. Learn more about essential oils and its different uses in health issues faced by adults and kids.

Pick up on some knowledge bombs about essential oils and its effect on cancer, benefits in women, and use in vaping.  Acquire very useful information on different oil blends and how they can be beneficial to your health. Be taught on how and where to apply essential oil therapeutically on your body.


In this episode, we cover:

12:24   Dr. Eric’s top 3 essential oils recommendation

19:47   Frankincense and its anti-cancer effects

24:41   Tips on choosing essential oils in the market

30:40   Ways to apply essential oils

35:33   Essential oils for issues with kids

39:58   Vaping and essential oils







Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And we are live here this is Dr. J with Beyond Wellness Radio. We got Dr. Eric Z in the house.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Hello

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: How are we doing, Eric?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: I’m blessed, man. So happy to be here. Thanks for having me here, brother.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Great. Well, I’m really excited for—to have you on and we’re gonna answer live questions at the end of the podcast, too. So we’ll be able to hit those up as well. We didn’t answer this so— we didn’t promote this ahead of time, so we’re on-the-fly doing uh— ad lib, functional medicine essential oil healthier as we speak.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And I wanna welcome everyone on my crew because I just put it up on the Dr. Eric Z and the essential oil revolution Facebook page. Pokes, tune in, leave us some comment and say hello and follow my good friend, Justin because he is the man. He knows exactly what is talking about. He helps a lot of people.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, thank you so much. Now before we start, what did you have for breakfast? I’ll tell you what I had first, I had some coffee, some collagen, uh—some butter coffee MCT and I got my wife put about a pound of green vegetables in here juice.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Haha—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And we threw about two scoops of collagen in there and some MCT as well. So I am ready to go man. How about you?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: That’s awesome. You know, I typically don’t have food breakfast. This is my breakfast. This is my version. It’s my Matcha green tea latte.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I love it.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. I take the bulletproof coffee approach. I put some coconut oil in it, my Matcha green tea, raw cacao and Stevia. Man, that’s my latte. Gives me all the energy keeps me a little bit low-state ketosis till I get really hungry around lunchtime. And I rarely ever hungry during for— for breakfast, you know. I’d usually like to give my body 15-18 hours between meals if I can, you know. So that’s what we do.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I love it, man. Very cool. I was actually watching the uh— Truth about vaccine series.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: —with my wife. And I’m sitting there watching, “I know that guy!”

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Hahaha—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. We we’re on the truth about uh—vaccines dropping some serious knowledge bombs. Uh—how was that experience’s like for you?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It’s an honor. Always an honor and a privilege to be doing anything with Ty Bollinger. I mean these— I’m just a big fan. He’s a friend, love his mission, love what they’re doing and I gotta tell you, this is— this is about misinformation and this is about helping people. And I— and I know what it’s like folks. I know what it’s like to be sick. I know what it is like to be a victim. And I called it victim very carefully. __it’s like to be victimized by misinformation. My mother was misled. She didn’t breast-feed me. My mother and father were mis—My mother and father misled. I was raised on antibiotics. I had my adenoids and tonsils taken out when I was a kid. I got on Accutane, the suicide drug, because I develop acne when I was a teenager. And one thing after another, living on the standard American diet, I had so many health problems.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uhm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Chronic gut conditions. And I realized, you know, my mom and dad did the best they could like most people in America and around the world will do. And we’re just misled. And so it’s such an honor and privilege to be sharing truth and to be sharing evidence and keep things into perspective. And that is the take-home message for folks, the bottom line, everyone needs, needs to watch the truth about vaccines. We are actually having a replay weekend—this weekend. For nothing less, than you can become a more informed healthcare patient.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I love it. So good.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: We need to be informed. Just don’t do what the doctor says, just because the doctor says it. We should be allowed a dialogue with our healthcare providers. So I can go on and on about that, man, but it’s about true empowerment to be educated.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love it. Now you have a really unique background—very colorful background. Coz you are in chiropractic school, but you are also really— really big on the research and public health. I know you’re kinda on the PhD course. You kinda had a full ride all set up there. And then you kinda took a detour down this essential oil path.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Which is really cool, which we’ll talk about more. Talk to me about your background a little bit and how did you get to this point right now?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It’s a wild story, man. You know the Bible says, “A man’s mind plans his ways, but the Lord directs his steps.” And that has been my journey, man, the whole way through I— I quit a perfectly good cushy, corporate job and my wife and I followed up to the dream of becoming a chiropractor and open up a healthcare Center. And I got to tell you, I love people. I’m a people person and it’s been the hardest thing for me to look behind this computer for a living. And you know, what I was in school, I’m a writer. I’ve always been a researcher at heart. When I was in school, I took an opportunity, got a scholarship to write a first case study, got published in the peer-reviewed journal and it— the door opened up where, you know, you can have a couple different tracks. You can become a clinician, you can become an administrator, you could be a researcher, and I chose the research track.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And I was in school, just traveling the country in the world teaching continuing education to doctors because in my research, it was wild. And so when I graduated just a couple years ago now, when I graduated, I was like, “Wow! I love this vein. I love helping people and I was a research writer at the time. That’s how I provided for myself.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: A medical writer. And one of my clients commissioned me to write a series of public health reports about oils.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And that’s what got me. I was floored. And, you know me too, I am a man of faith but I gotta be able to understand things, right? And so when it came to essential oils, when I started looking at the evidence, and started diving in a little, literally hundreds and hundreds of research studies, I was like, “There’s something to this stuff.” And that’s where it all really was birth. And I launched an essential oil summit with my— my buddy Josh Axe, my good friend, Jill Winger. A 165,000 people attended that almost 2 years to the date and that just opened it up. Yeah, man. It opened it up to a world where I realize, Justin, uhm— we need to learn how to use these precious plant compounds safely and effectively, not just use them willy-nilly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Unreal. Very, very cool. Love it, love it, love it. So talk to me about— it’s really interesting coz your background— like you come up like a very like extroverted kinda guy. I’m really shocked that you were going down that research— the research route based on kinda your— your skill set. So it’s kinda unique that you were going that direction, in the first place.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: You know why? I gotta tell you. I was moved. Uhm— for those people who don’t know much about chiropractic care, you need to find a good chiropractor who knows what they’re doing coz it can be life-changing. Justin, I wrote— I wrote a case study about this girl who was on—who was autistic and nothing would help her. She was actually adopted. Uhm— her mother was actually crack mother and this baby was born premature.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Wow!

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And she was adopted by a loved one uh— I believe it was an aunt or cousin, she was adopted. And this girl had a lot of physical problems, emotional social, problems. They went through occupational therapist, they went through social workers, the medical doctor known could help this girl and they just decided to try chiropractic care. And this chiropractor, yeah, besides getting her on a little bit of omega-3’s, but this girl was very young. She just slowly starting incorporating chiropractic care into this girl’s life and I kid you not, this— this paper was so dramatic I documented case by case, day by day, what happened to her because this doctor did a great job. Dr. Stacy B__ If any of you are in my—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Great.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: South Dakota, by the way, I gotta give her a plug. She documented this so well, this girl’s life dramatically change like she wouldn’t— like we’re talking autistic to the point where not even looking at her mom and dad and not saying I love you at three years old. She just didn’t have the capacity like she was so—you know, things were not working. And so, slowly— slowly this girl started to become “normal and fully functioning” and I wrote up this case study. And these stories I’ve seen and I wrote up a case study of another condition, another condition, and I’ll never forget, Justin, I’ll never forget the power of—of research. When I was presenting this at Sherman College of Chiropractic, I was presenting uh—a course on how to write case studies, a lady came up to me. And this lady is a middle-age woman uhm— which is kinda odd for someone to go to school on that age that late in life. So she came up to me in her mid-40s and she goes, “Dr. Eric, uhm— your— your paper change my life.” I’m like, “What?” She goes, “My daughter had autism and my medical doctor read your paper and gave it to me and said you need to try chiropractic. It gave my daughters life back. And my other daughter who’s a teenager, she had dysmenorrhea and that’s all fixed up. And me, I’m changing my life, I’m gonna be chiropractor. It changed my life.” I’m like, “Wow! The power of research.” So I started thinking myself, “Yeah.” You know I just really felt led by God to do this because, you know, Justin, last month 265,000 people went to my website. I can’t reach that many people in the clinic.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: No.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And so I— I felt, you know, as much as I love being with people this is what I get. You know, you and I are— people right now. And this is my people time but, you know, as much as I am— I— I feel called to really help the masses.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I love it. Very cool. And we get some people in the background watching this live, so if you guys have any questions pertaining to Eric or essential oils, feel free and drop in the live chat and at the end, we’ll have Eric answer those questions. Very Cool.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Man, tell us where you’re from. I’m in Atlanta. Hello, got a beautiful day. Justin, where are you right now?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Austin, Texas, baby. Beautiful afternoon.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Oh! Very cool, very cool.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Got an Oak tree in the backyard. I love it, man. Very cool. So how did you make this journey from chiropractic to the researcher, now into essential oils? Coz you’re one of the biggest essential oil websites and resources on the Internet and you— you’re really unbiased, too, which is interesting. You don’t have your oil line or anything. So you really kinda know the best companies that are out there. So walk me through. How did you get into essential oil space? Did you have a clinical experience with essential oils? Or it really helped you improve your health or life?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: You know, it was really—  it was really by virtue of my client like I shared a couple minutes ago when they— I was asked to write a series of reports on essential oils. And then the light bulb went on. And so the thing about it, I was asked to write these reports and as I was researching, I saw a major disconnect between what the research says and between what 99.9% of every website says. And like, What is the difference here? Why are these bloggers not getting it? Why are people sharing unsafe practices?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And why is there such a little? And I kid you not, literal aggressive argument between the major brands, like people I’ve learned, you don’t talk about religion, you don’t talk about politics, and you don’t talk about your favorite essential oil at Thanksgiving coz this is gonna cause a family feud.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hahaha—

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And so I started looking at this like, “This is a really crazy, divided industry.” And so I — I get it. I just went up to Josh Axe and Jill Winger why don’t we host a summit, where we get everyone together, never been done before—  chemist bloggers, aroma therapist, distributors, healthcare professionals. And we all let go of her favorite brands and we just talk straight oils. Everyone told me it couldn’t. So we did it and it— it was awesome because for the first time, people were able to let go of their favorite brands, let go of their loyalty, forget about selling, and we just talked. And you know what, people disagreed with each other and that’s fine. This was an open forum. One person said this, another person said that, and you know, we get a little bit of flack for that. People so-and-so are arguing with so-and-so’s. Well good. This is what— This is what’s called a dialogue. And that’s what I wanted to do. I want to get to the bottom line of how to truly use essential oils safe and effectively because the truth is, we have limited research and we don’t know. The FDA isn’t monitoring this stuff, big Gov is hands off, people have been using this stuff willy-nilly for many years, people get cured from diseases, other people get hurt, why? And so, I literally found the need, Justin— I found the need because people wanted a non-branded trusted resource that they could go to and not worry about getting shoved down the affiliate route and hate by my oil. So I’ll tell you. I lose— and I don’t wanna say I lose, but there’s a lot of money I could be making if I sold oils.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: You know what, I’m gonna stay true to this. I’m gonna write books; I’m gonna create courses; I’m gonna have a membership site; I’m gonna provide for my family doing something that no one else is doing. And I gotta say God has been faithful. Uhm—  and we have a huge following because of it.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. You’re the biggest basically in the world for essential oils so I appreciate it. You’re putting some great info up there. So what are your top three—  this can be different for each person based on what they have headaches, or PMS, or mood issues,

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yup.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Or anxiety, what are your favorite three essential oils? Just for you, based on your experience, what are they?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Okay. You— You’re catching a good time. I literally just handed in my manuscript for my book last week.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Wow.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: —to an editor. Yeah, man. Book coming on February, So all this is fresh in my mind and one thing that I really made a point in my book was the highlight orange.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Whether it’s sweet orange, wild orange, depending on the brand that you use, basically the same just a different name. Uhm— orange oil is by far the most cost-effective, all-around MVP to about—the highest concentration of D-Limonene—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: D-Limonene

Dr. Eric Zielinski: —of any other—Yeah. So tell me a little bit about in your world. Coz I’m not a functional medicine doc. When I save D-Limonene, I know what I think. But  when I say it, what do you think?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I think D- Limonene is the— is the main component in a lot of these citrus lime and orange, uh— lemon and orange, essentially. But I use it in my field to help with the migrating motor complex to help with constipation, people that have SIBO and bacterial overgrowth. Their guts tend to be a little bit slow with methane gas overgrowth. So use D-Limonene and really help the intestines move and it works great therapeutically.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: You know, orange oil has up to 95% D-Limonene.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love it. And D-Limonene has also been shown in clinical trials to kill cancer cells. And D- Limonene has been shown to not only do that, but to help boost mood. And for me, aromatherapy is one of the most effective ways of getting people off of Xanax and Prozac, and other psychotropic drugs that are just so bad for you. So I love it, I love it. There’s like, you said, digestive health, mood health, good for infections, it’s antifungal, it’s antiviral. It’s like there’s nothing you can’t do on. I mean really, when our kids have 104 temperature, we apply some diluted uhm— orange and diluted peppermint oil over there back from the crown of your head to the soles of their feet, I kid you not, within minutes their temperature drops because research has shown that D-Limonene, the chemical components in these oils are in the bloodstream within 20 minutes after topical application. Like, it’s like putting on the patch, you know. It’s transdermal application.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Like you would, if you were to try to quit smoking. So folks, topical application diluted is the way to go and orange. So orange, number one. number two, I’ve recently had just fallen in love with Ylang Ylang.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Ylang Ylang.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: That took me a while. I’ll tell you. I’ll be honest with you. You know, like I joke around, you can’t go, you know, hanging out with my buddies playing football smiling Ylang Ylang.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hahaha

Dr. Eric Zielinski: They’re gonna take my man card away. But so— I—I really did I marginalize Ylang Ylang is like the flowery perfume thing to my wife did. But man, I stumbled upon a literature review that rocked my mental world. And I’m like, “This is unbelievable.” Frankincense is known as the king of essential oils.
We get that.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm. Ylang Ylang is his queen. Unbelievable effect. And here’s a cool thing, like at the end of the day, like you got this look at Ylang Ylang and I—I published an article recently about that, too. It’s—it’s harmonizing effects. So here’s what we got to remember about certain things like plant-based compounds. They should help your body reach homeostasis, okay?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It’s not about, “Oh! I’m hypotensive. How do I get balance?” or “I’m hypertensive, how do I get low?” You want some— you want supplements, you want essential oils, you want outside-in approaches to help your body inside out heal. And so what we found literally, Ylang Ylang helps harmonized conflicting measures. So for example, it could decrease blood rate at this r uhm—it could decrease blood pressure at the same time that it speeds up your pulse. How does it make sense? That’s counterintuitive, right? Because it helps your body reach homeostasis. And— and sandalwood is another one that does the same thing. So basically people say, “Hey, I want an oil for that.” Well, “Hey, that’s not really the best approach to this.” However, there are certain oils that just help your body just reach that nice peaceful state. And that rocked my world. Again, I never heard of harmonization in that standpoint before with conflicting measures. So we got Ylang Ylang, we got orange and the other one always is peppermint. Like there’s virtually nothing that peppermint can’t help you. It’s—and you know, I also mentioned this in my book, I include— I went out a little bit of a tri— a diatribe.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Wow.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: I hope my— my editor keeps this piece because I started ranting against monster drinks and red bull. Man, I’m telling you something, that stuff is horrible for you.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And people don’t realize one of those energy drinks has up to 5 cups of caf— 5 cups of coffee’s worth of caffeine in it.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Insane.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Like 5 cups. Can you imagine drinking 5 cups of coffee like now? People just take a shot and they get so, what— what we’re finding out is actually causing addiction for young adults especially. It’s causing—it’s like the gateway drug. It’s the new marijuana. People are becoming addicted not only to them because the caffeine, but becoming addicted to other narcotics because they need to get on this high. There are so many problems with arrhythmia. I had a friend who went to the hospital because of heart palpitations because he was overdosing on these stupid drinks. So why am I saying this? Peppermint shown clinically proven— if you take a drop of peppermint straight your mouth, put it in your water, put in a teaspoon of coconut oil, actually helps open up your airways, open up your bronchioles, give you deeper breathes. And as you know, Justin, more deeper breathing, more oxygen, more blood; more blood means more energy. And that’s what people are finding, if you want to have some natural energy, you can apply some diluted peppermint over your chest or your back right before you do your crazy Cross Fit, or right before you do your marathon. You don’t need to go to those sugary drinks to sustain your energy, and digestive health, and mental health, and you name, it peppermint can help you. So peppermint, orange, and Ylang Ylang. You ask me in five months, I’d probably come up with a different three but this is where I’m at right now.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Peppermint is a great natural cure for sunburn, too.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Couple of drops of that, you rub it in your sunburn area, it is so cool. You think it’s coz of the mint, you think it’d be hotter, but it’s very cooling.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. And SIBO. You mentioned SIBO. Clinical trials have shown that peppermint— Coz here’s the problem when it comes to SIBO and other conditions like colon issues. Because how you gonna get that remedy into the colon. You need to have an enteric coated capsule. You need to have a polymer coated capsule that will digest until it reaches the distal G.I. track, right? You just can’t put a drop of peppermint in your mouth and expect it to reach your intestines— It won’t. Even bypass the gastric juice in your stomach. So they found like 3 to 6 drops of peppermint in an enteric coated capsule can literally knock SIBO in its tracks, help with symptoms, calm the inflammation and oh, I take this back, I wanna go back to orange. Same technique with orange and and leaky gut. Orange has been actually shown to help increase your intestinal cell length and size.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Wow!

Dr. Eric Zielinski: So we all know about yet, but it’s—it’s nuts. So they epithelial cell tests and they found that orange actually increases it. So people that have a leaky gut, they can actually help the barrier repair itself, orange oil. I mean, “Wow!” And again, how do you get it in your gut? Enteric coated capsule, possibly putting in over your abdomen and we’ll hope that it penetrates into your gut but that’s not the best approach. It’s really tough to treat the gut.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Interesting. You also mentioned uhm— Peppermint. I know one of the big SIBO product is in the market called Atrantil. Peppermint is one of the—the main ingredients in that product so really good feedback. You also mentioned Frankincense, I.E. Boswellia.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Which is a great anti-inflammatory and you know, frankincense has the history, right? It was one of the three herbs that were—that were given, you know, at the uh—at the birth of Jesus, so to speak. And then also, really good anti-cancer herb, too. Can you talk about the anti-cancer effects of frankincense?

Dr. Eric Zielinskil Okay. This is where the confusion comes into the play. Even though it’s called Boswellia, right? You have Bosswellia serrata, boswellia—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: All these different versions and species. The known—the known cancer fighting component in frankincense are Boswellic acids.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: But— Boswellic Acids aren’t volatile. So what essential oils are—they’re volatile organic compounds.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Volatile is the—the meaning of they readily evaporate.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: So when you steam distill the frankincense resin, coz again, the resin comes out of the tree just like maple syrup and sap. So you tap the frankincense tree, you get the resin, you crush it up, you distill it— steam distill it. The resin does not win, it separates. It separates in the volatile and nonvolatile compounds. Basically evaporated and those that can’t evaporate. Boswellic Acid can evaporate. So you do not get boswellic acid into your essential oils, okay? So that raises a  little bit of confusion because the research said—these are actually say otherwise and they just don’t know. And that’s the problem with some research studies. However, I have a friend and you can check out on my podcast, Justin. It’s unbelievable story how she was left to die with Stage IV, non-small cell lung cancer. And all she had left because regard—uhm her oncologist took her off of all chemo and radiation because her platelets and blood count were so low. She’s like, “We can’t do anymore for you.” All she knew how to do, her and her Husband was applied. Frankincense and myrrh and lemongrass over her tumor. And again, some me—metastatic all over. She was dying, she  was going blind, she was going paralyzed. She should be dead. Well, she’s not dead. She can see, she could walk, no cancer in her lungs anymore. The cancer in her brain’s gone. And she’s like, “Well, Hallelujah!” Well frankincense was part of that. So here’s my argument to the aromatherapy community is yeah, we can’t prove it yet, but there are many, many case studies and I interviewed Allison Huish.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: uhm— my first summit. She was on the Truth of about Cancer as well about how she use Frankincense to cure herself of astrocytoma. And so, what does this mean? There’s something— There’s something in frankincense but we don’t know what it is.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It might be— It might be uhm— the D— D-Alanine.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: I Believe it is. I haven’t read on that in quite awhile.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It might be D-Alanine. It might be the other one. I us don’t know. But anyway, frankincense is known by far to be one of those healing traditional resins on the market and we’ve been using it for centuries, if not, thousands of years.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Just wanna make sure I understand you. So the volatile compound that’s what’s in the essential oil meaning it can evaporate. Is that where all the anticancer benefits are?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: UhmThat’s the confusion because the non-volatile compound

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s the capsule. That’s what people taking Boswellia. You’re at the Boswellic Acids

Dr. Eric Zielinski: That doesn’tYeah. That’s not volatile so that doesn’t reach the essential oils. So that’s not in your bottle, folks. So when you’re looking at risk, you’re looking at volatile organic compounds. You’re looking at things that readily evaporate so there’s no Boswellia yet in here.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So you can’t take the Boswellia capsule and get the same benefits that you get for the essential oils.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: They’re completely different.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Got it.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. And which is nice coz you take both. And research actually suggested that if you actually take essential oils with your chemotherapy, for example, it helps the chemotherapy be more effective. Like these are transdermal, they penetrate the blood-brain barrier. You know, they— there’s a lot of benefits to using probiotics and essential oils and enzymes and essential oils together.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: So my recommendation for people is do both. Put a couple drops of Frankincense in a capsule, take your Boswellia uhm—uhm—supplement. Take it at the same time and monitor it and apply it topically. Topical application, so key.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Great. And what do you think about the best essential oil companies that are out there? I know there’s a big multi-levels like doTerra and Young Living. What do you think about them? What do you think about some other ones in the market? Where can people a good quality essential oil?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: My answer is, I hate to say it, I can’t answer it because this is my commitment to the world. I’m not gonna recommend a brand.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Here’s a reason whybecause bias. I’m committed to being an unbiased researcher and I learned in Public Health School 101.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: You can’tYou gotta get out of the brand wars. Plus I will say, too, FDA. The problem that a lot of MOM folks have right now is restricted by FDA compliance. So they can’t with say, “Hey, use my essential oils and sell the essential oils and talk about diseases that’s known as a drug claim.”  So here’s why I do what I do, folks. I have the freedom of speech. I know I really upset people by not giving this answer. But if you want me to continue researching if you want me to continue sharing how to use this oil safely and effectively, I can’t recommend a brand, or sell, okay? So with that said, I wrote an article about how to choose a brand. There are many ways, there are several essential oil brands out there. I will give you a couple tips, though, for folks that are interested.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: At the end of the day, I will say at the end of the day, you can use multiple brands. There is no number one best brand. Just don’t believe it. Here’s why Biochemical individuality. And I’m a perfect example of it. There are certain brands that their blends really respond well to me, but let’s say I tried lemon and something about that lemon just doesn’t work with my body. Why? Because my chemistry doesn’t react to the chemistry. And here’s the thing, it all depends on the sourcing, it depends on the harvest, it depends on how they source it, how they store it, whether it’s organic, indigenous, wild-crafted. There’s so many different aspects to this. You have to find what works for you. And my family and I, we use about six or seven brands consistently because we know what works for us. We have our favorites. But in the end of the day, you have to do a little trial and error. Folks, there is no magic bullet. So youyou have to sample. And my recommendation is to really wholeheartedly, and Justin, I hope you agree with this when it comes to supplementation as well, is the organoleptic evaluation.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: You know organoleptic meaning how does your body respond? When you smell something, do you get a headache? When you taste it, does it taste sour? Is it pleasant? You get the shakes, you get nausea, Youwe need to know how our five senses react to something. So before I recommend a supplement regimen of $1000 to someone, I’m gonna give them a sample first. You know, this isn’t a—a one-size-fits-all approach. Same thing with essential oils. You need find out how your body responds, how does it look like? Put a couple of drops and you can see in the back right there, may little diffuser. Put a couple drops of let’s say lemon oil, it’s a perfect oil to start with. It’s relative orange, relatively cost-effective. Buy orange from a few different companies. Hey, invest 50 bucks, it’s worth it, seriously, it’s your health. So get orange, put a couple of drops in the diffuser and just hang out in your kitchen for a little bit. Do it while you’re getting ready for breakfast. How do you feel? I mean, really how do you feel? You get nauseousWell probably not a good idea that you use it. Does it get you little energy? Does it make you smile? Well, that’s a good sign that the brand orange works for you. You kinda have to go that way. And maybe there’s a skin patch test that you could use. That’s you know, when you buy carpet cleaner.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It says, try that inconspicuous part of your carpet before you— you potentially stain your whole carpet. Well, what do you do? You get a little essential oil, dilute it with coconut oil. Put it from the back of your hand. And what happens? You are wrapped in a rash does it hurt? Does it burn? It shouldn’t. If you dilute it properly, it should be a pleasant experience. So that’s called the organoleptic test, folks. I will leave you with this. Because this is something I think we all need toto recognize. You know, when you buy a car and I’m gonna use this analogy for the multi-level marketingnetwork marketing companies versus the others that— that don’t sell uhmthrough that way. When you buy a car, you could choose to get a Mercedes or you could choose to get let’s say, a Chevy, uhmwe could argue all day long whether or not a Mercedes is worth the money or whether you could get by with a Chevy. I’m comparing a multilevel marketing company to a Mercedes because you’re paying extra You are. You are paying extra for the service that you get. These companies have to pay 6-7-8 down lines worth of commission and so they literally raise their prices 5-6-7-10 times as much as they could. But here’s the thing, if you get value out of it, it’s worth it. If you have a support from your up line, if you trust the company, I’ll say, I know people that if they can afford it, they’re getting a Mercedes and they love it. They love the service; they love the esteem; they love the in a sense, social proof behind it. So with that said I—I  just realized you are paying more but I’m not saying you’re wasting your money just how like how I would never say that someone who buys a Mercedes is wasting her money. You gotta find value in that. If you’re on a super tight budget, you might want to think twice about an MOM and go through another vendor. There are many, many that sell quality oils.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very good. So What are those top three criteria we’re looking at? We’re trying to make sure the oils are organic, I imagine. We don’t want the pesticides and chemicals, that’s a given, correct?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: No. You know, I hate to say it. No, because it’s a problem. They actually had a study—or not a study—a whole conference around this in 2014 in Rome, Italy where they evaluated the pesticide content in organic oils and there’s no way. There are pesticide residues in organic oils. Why?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Less than regular.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yes, of course. So if you wanna minimize it, but the thing is—is if you want uhm — good, good question. If you want to completely avoid pesticides, I don’t think you can.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Unless you— really, you just can’t. Even if you grow it in your backyard coz it drift away and then water run off. So organic is in consideration; indigenous sourcing, that’s a consideration. You really want to get oils whether naturally— you wanna get the plants where they’re naturally harvested. I think that’s a great idea. Uhm— Here’s the thing, reputation, referrals— you wanna start— I’m a referral junkie like, you know, I’m looking for a new dentist. I’m going to one of  my friends, “Hey who do you recommend?” Contact two or three or four friends that you really trust, no more than five, seriously, coz it gets confusing. Contact some really close friends that you know are in control of your health and you value them; you look up and say, “What brand do you recommend?” I know you’re using these oils and start there. Contact the company; ask them about their sourcing. They should have batch reports. They should be able to send you information whether via email or whatever. They have all this stuff. Ask them for information— How do you source it? What are your quality standards? All these different things. You wanna get this Information. If a company cannot readily provide that, I would think twice. At this point, they should have their act together. And the reality is remember folks, there’s no such thing as certified this; There’s no such thing as third-party testing. Meaning no government agency that’s third-party is truly evaluating all this. It’s all internal. So all boils down to trust. It all boils down to trust because no one is forcing these companies to sell pure oils.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally makes sense. And what’s the best way to apply these oils? So someone’s trying to get these oils into their body fast, what’s the best way? Are we going over lymphatic sites behind the ears, crease of the elbow, behind the knees, uh— in the in the lymph node area of the throat? How do you get them into patients fast so it works therapeutically?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. Good question. The fastest, most effective— fastest I should say is in— inhalation. So like this, that—  or you can actually have a diffuser. Uh—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Diffuser—

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. You— you can apply even apply it topically over your chest, you could get like Vicks Vapor rub uhm—  diffusing it to an ultrasonic diffuser like I have behind me. There’s a variety of ways like that is the fastest way; However, I feel the most effective is topical and there’s a research study that proved—that showed the percutaneous absorption rate of different parts of your body.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Number one is the genital region and it makes sense. What’s the most sensitive part of your body when you apply anything to it? Your genital.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. A lot of blood flow down there.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. And there is. So you gotta think of it, Justin, traditionally aromatherapy will actually recommend anal suppositories for certain conditions. We’re talking immediate application into the blood system. So if that weirds you out, I get it. That freaks people out. So okay, let’s stay away far from from the genitals. I wanna be careful; I don’t wanna burn myself. So the next best way is the back of the neck.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: The absorption on the back of the neck is the best way to apply the oils. And next is the stomach, the abdomen. And that’s where the research studies have shown that linalool, the chemical in lavender penetrates and gets into the bloodstream within 20 minutes of applying a diluted mixture. So stomach is safe, back and neck, and then arms, and finally your legs and feet. So when people say, “Oh, apply the oils in the bottoms of your feet.” Yeah, that’s nice you get the aromatic benefit like you could smell it. But it’s really not. It’s not the most effective way of getting oils into your body because again, there’s a lot of myths out there the pores of your—  your feet are not this big like people make it sound like. There’s a lot of calluses down there; it’s tough skin; it’s hard for stuff to get in your body.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Any opinion on cannabis oil?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I know it’s been used for epilepsy, pain, anxiety, a lot of really good anti-cancer benefits. What your thoughts are uh CBD oil, in particular?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Well first CBD oil is not an essential oil.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And that’s where a little confusion comes into play. The essential oil is much different. Uhm—  the essential oil is the essential oils, not at extract. And that’s what CBD oil is. It’s basically a solvent extract. And if they use something like hexane or some other petrochemical, I get weirded out by that, I’ll tell you, man. It has to have a solid like CO2—CO2 extraction, CBD oil is fantastic.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: CO2

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. You do. You do not want to use a solvent, a petrochemical solvent to get your stuff out, man. It’s bad news bears. And that’s what Bob—Rob I’m sorry, I should— should remember this. Bob Simpson, or you know, the Bob Simpson oil.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: He’s using hexane. Forget that, man. So I mean, you— they actually have—  you could buy CO2 extract and basically it’s— it’s hyper atmospheric CO2 coz CO2 as we know is an air. CO2 when it’s frozen is your— your— your—  your liquid or your—uhm—your—uhm—your frozen ice, what’s that called? Help me out here.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, yeah. I think you need to be the dry ice.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. CO2 when it’s frozen is your dry ice.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: CO2 when it’s evaporated is in your air; but CO2 can actually become a liquid, if it’s at a constant temperature at a constant atmospheric pressure. And that is how they’re extracting. And the chemical properties of these essential oils are profound. So yes, CO2, cannabis is fantastic for cancer; it’s fantastic for pain; it’s fantastic for nausea. I mean every cancer patient should have it for a number reasons. Coz it helps with the symptoms, it helps especially counteract a lot of the stuff that happens when you’re at chemo. Uhm—and I actually wrote an article all about cannabis oil because it’s not an essential oil. You gotta remember that. There is cannabis essential oil, completely different chemical structure. Again, what’s volatile? What’s not? What will evaporate? What won’t? What will survive steam distillation or what will be lost? And so we always gotta remember even if you extract or cold-pressed it’s called a citrus oil versus steam distilling it, there’s different chemical properties. So you guys kinda look at the chemistry a little bit. Find out what is it that I want; what is it that I need; and go accordingly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love it. Totally makes sense. Now, you have four kids. So I imagine you probably have all of the— the parental injuries and all these different things that happen with the kiddos and a lot of people they go back to the conventional medicine cabinet, right?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  A lot of the anti-inflammatory, maybe the harsh medications to treat the symptoms. What are your top three oils for dealing with kiddo issues? Coughs, scrapes, headaches, burns. What are your top three for that?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. You know—Yeah. Going back to what—going back—it’s a good question going back to what I share with the other three. It’d be similar. I would choose peppermint, orange and lavender.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Lavender particularly because it’s just helps her children. We diffuse lavender; We have a sleepy time blend, we’ll put lavender, a little bit of vetiver rum chamomile. We’ll give my—my wife does it. My kids call it the royal touch where she just touches them and massages their back and she gives him a nice, you know, aromatherapy massage before bed put a few drops in the diffuser and a religious helps calm the house down and get them ready for night time as we pray and read the stories. That’s really cool. Peppermint like I shared it’s—it’s—it’s—it’s the MVP Uhm— there is a little bit of disagreement in the world whether or not the aromatherapy world that peppermint is safe for children. We’ve used peppermint as young as a couple months old all the way through. Here— one thing you gotta consider children are miniature adults. They really, really are. At the end of the day, they’re just miniature adults; However, when it comes to premature babies and things, their skin are like sponges and Justin, you know, you’re having a baby soon you’ll find this out. You’ll apply—You can apply a whole like liter of coconut oil on your baby and it’ll just be—their skin will be dry in a couple of hours.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It’s crazy. So lit—especially newborns, their skin is so absorbent so you wanna be careful.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And some experts recommend don’t even use essential oils on children for the first couple months of their life. I’m not gonna argue that. I’ll tell you that we have, very safely, I’m talking highly diluted, like one drop per tablespoon kind of thing and we’ve done well. And peppermint is fantastic especially for those tummy issues. We use that a lot— peppermint for tummy issues. You know when the baby gets colicky, you know, they need to pass gas and things that helps, and we like— we uhm—essentially my wife anoints our kids with a—a mixture of orange and—and vanilla. She calls it her oil of joy blend. And every morning it’s— it’s what we do. We slather them up and we get them ready for school and we get them all happy and just helps promote, positive, positive emotions. So peppermint, orange and lavender are critical for my house for our children.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And how are you diluting those oil? You said in 1 tablespoon, so you doin’ like a little bit of MCT or some fraction of the coconut oil? What does that look like?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. Good question. There are variety of carrier oils and it all depends what you’re trying to do. And folks, if you don’t— you really wanted to learn—  and this is definitely out of the scope of this talk just because this would turn into an aromatherapy class—  you gotta get your dilutions down and I have that in uhm— I actually have a pdf that people can get, like all of it— like what’s 1%? What’s 2%? So here’s like I guess the bottom-line if your —your math person, take notes on this. In 1 ounce, okay? 1 ounce of a carrier oil, almond, jojoba, evening primrose, coconut, doesn’t matter, there’s a roughly 600 drops. So if you want a 1% dilution, which is typically safe for children for the face, for the—for the genitalia, it’s very highly diluted 1%. You’d only put 6 drops.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Six drops of essential oil per—uhm—per ounce. That’s the standard. You know, just think of it in terms like that. Which oil you use to dilute it? It’s up to you. I mean—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: What’s the variety one, though?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. There’s a varie— we don’t—my—my—my favorite’s my wife’s blend. She created a uh— this is on my website, too— she created a Mama Z oils base where she used coconut, almond and jojoba and a little bit of vitamin e acts as a preservative and really, really helps. You make your own. Uhm—if you want something that helps prevent oxidation, which will help extend the shelf life of your essential oil, and something that really penetrates quick, fractionated coconut or MCT is fantastic. It gets a little pricey but, you know, it’s worth in the long run on uhm—especially for burns, for you know, tumors, for things like uhm—uhm—  cold sores on your mouth, something like that. It doesn’t leave an oily ry—residue. And that’s the thing about essential oils, they’re really not oils that we think, they don’t leave a residue. So that’s where your fractionated coconut comes in. Your normal coconut oil, that works great but it’s more like a lotion, more good for your toothpaste and that stuff.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. It’s a solid fat so typically you have to get a lot of body heat going to get it liquefy

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Uh-hmm.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And what do you think about people that are trying to get off smoking and they’re going to like a vapor e-cigarette. There’s a lot of people that are doing these oil-based vape solutions.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: What’s your take on that? I know there’s a lot— there’s some that have like a lot of— I think uhm— preservatives in it, like uh— I can’t think—  polysorbitol, polysorbate.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: — is also I think some—some— uh—I think it’s the anti-freeze compound, I forget what it is. It’s various paraben. But again, these are preservatives that are in some of these oils that keep it lasting longer. Are there any that you like that are good to put in the vape or the e-cigarette, if you trying to convert or going off of real cigarettes?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: I think those things are absolutely ridiculous. I mean our—our lungs are not made to inhale that concentrated amount of essential oils. Just think of it, it is— it’s ridiculous. I mean, you can actually cause lung damage especially because of those— those concentrated—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uhm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: compounds, those preservatives. But you know what helps with cigarette withdrawal?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Black pepper.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uhmm

Dr. Eric Zielinski: —proven. Research. Black pepper and he— and I’ve —I’ve help—I’ve help people do this and I kid you not, it works. You can diffuse. And I suggest uhm—at work or at night especially diffusing at night next your bed stand. It’s so easy to do because you’re not thinking, you’re sleeping and you just enjoy the vapors in your body just starts to change and even consciously realize what’s happening. I love it. So for folks that I’ve help get off cigarettes is black pepper and you can just put a few drops. There are other oils I can help as well. Again, peppermint is very good at curbing uhm—unhealthy cravings, lime, grapefruit these are all cinnamon. They’re known also to help curb unhealthy food cravings but to me and Justin, I don’t know if you agree or not with this, but addiction is addiction it’s like an addiction cascade in the mind, whether you’re addicted to sex, whether you’re addicted to food, whether you’re addicted to a drug. It ki— it still triggers the same aspect of the addiction cascade in the mind. So if something works with food, I’ve seen it work in the same with nicotine. And so person— as my experience and black pepper is great. Another technique is to put—coz a—I used to smoke for five years. So I get this, the oral fixation.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:  Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: And so a good technique is to get some diluted— make about a 5 or I would even say 10% dilution uhm—which would be 60 drops of black pepper per ounce of a carrier oil, coconut would work nice, after the taste nice. Put that in the bowl and get some toothpicks. Have those toothpicks soak up the essential oil blend and it’s called uhm— you know, black pepper stick. Put that in your mouth, suck on the toothpick. It gives that oral fixation habit to rest; you get the benefits of the anti-withdrawal. And I tell you, it helps with withdrawals because nicotine withdrawals are killer. So yeah, folks, don’t be doing those vapor things. They’re not good.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Now do you still—Do you feel like it’s still a good step in the right direction where smoking is a lot worse than that? At least maybe it’s not optimal but it’s still better?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Or do you feel it’s just as bad as smoking a cigarette?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. It’s just another replacement. Again, I can’t say if it’s bad—

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Do you think it’s as bad, though?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. I don ‘t think it’s good. I mean it’s replacing one bad thing with another. I-I am not—I’m not a fan of that stuff. I mean I—you know, is it worse? I don’t know, we don’t have any clinical trials. But to—to—to— put the concentrated preservatives in your precious alveolar just doesn’t make sense.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Well, I know there healthier ones out there that don’t have that junk. So there is kind of the standard you know like—

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Crappy meat to McDonald’s and grass-fed meet at the— at the local store. So I know there are different variations to that. Again, just want your take on it, but it sounds like you’re against it, anyway.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. And even if you know why to— even if it were just pure—And I don’t think— I haven’t seen them. I have not seen a pure only 100% essential oil-based. I haven’t seen that. There’s always something else in it. You have to go emulsified to help you get in, become a vapor. I—the problem I have with it is is our body aren’t made, designed to have a concentrated amount of essential oils in it.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uhm.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Like you can actually cause a sensitization response and people are findings of becoming allergic to essential oils coz they’re using them too highly concentrated. And that’s a problem, like again, you—you—you could cause some asthma and bronchial issues by inhaling the stuff in the wrong way. Again, diffusion’s perfect. Right behind me. You got millions and millions of particles of these oils in the air and it’s a well-ventilated room. Imma put it in my lungs—it’s just not smart. So anyway, that’s just my thought. Uhm— I could be wrong, been wrong before but uhm—it just doesn’t settle right with me, especially coz it’s not proven.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani Well, I appreciate your perspective on it. I think you have some really good, valid points there.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Now, last question here before we did in. Uhm— looking at female hormones and male hormones. I deal with a lot of these issues primarily on the female side, but the male side, too. We’re constantly trying to help support and balance, you know, hormones naturally and male hormones naturally. What’s your favorite oil to help improve male hormonal balance? And what’s your favorite oil for females maybe that’s a cycling female and/or menopausal females so we can cut us with those up.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: That’s a good question. I don’t have a good answer for the male side uhm—unfortunately, I haven’t seen it. I really haven’t seen it. Uhm—I— I’ve seen, on the other end, in the research— a lot of research—I actually have a whole because of, Justin, I wasn’t planning on doing this and thank God, my editor gave me the thumbs up coz I wrote a whole section on it. I wrote an entire section 1/3 of my book is on women’s health because I realized research is— is— is profound. Clary sage—clary sage, geranium, Ylang Ylang and lavender. Those are the go-to oils to help the body get to that homeostasis to get the body harmonizing with hormones. It helps so many issues on their cycle, not on their cycle, pre-menopause, during and post menopause— all of it. And the thing is, it all works. It’s just a matter of finding what works for you. So there’s research showing literally clary sage helping with dysmenorrhea, clary sage helping speed up first stage of delivery, helping stage on helping uhm— with women— with horrible cramps in labor and helping throughout the process of every stage of life. Wow! Which makes sense because what’s—what’s do most midwives recommend? What it do— most herbal medicine practitioners use? clary sage—It’s unbelievable. So when it comes to men, I—I don’t know what to say. I really don’t and I haven’t seen enough research to suggest specifically on testosterone-related issues or any other hormones that I’ve seen. Unfortunately, uhm— that’s the problem with men’s health in aromatherapy. It’s is relatively untested.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very good. Tons of good knowledge bombs here. I love it. What I’m gonna do afterwards, too. I’m gonna do like a 3 to 5 minute video just kinda summarizing a lot of the key points here. And I will put some links back to your site, as well. I will grab all those references, the article you mentioned, how to spot the oils, how to apply it for all the kid stuff002E

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Cool.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: We will make sure that in the reference section for the transcription. So people want to know more info about you, click below and go to the transcription to get all of the details below.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Awesome. Thank you.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Well, is there anything kinda last thing here as we wrap up? Uhm— is anything else you wanna add that’s really important? Any projects? Anything that’s going on you wanna let the listeners know about?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. I really wanna emphasize safety. I wanna emphasize effectiveness and wanna emphasize that these oils can change your life. And it’s about balance. Uhm— this is, you know, and I’m gonna get back to my book a lot and that’s coming out in February uhm—it’s a little too soon to even be discussing the details about it yet. I wrote a section and I—I wanna end with here about how to get the most out of this book? How to get the most out of this podcast? How to get the most of my website? How to get the most out of anything uhm— there in the online space? One question I get over and over and over Justin— And not even a, question it’s more like a plea for help is I’m confused. There’s too much out there. You know when I first started this life, Justin, was 15 years ago. Basically all I had was Dr. Mercola. I have mercola.com You and I, we weren’t doing these. There were not as many thousands and thousands of health-related right websites out there. It’s really easy to find info and I’m grateful I found Dr. Mercola coz he’s a pretty trusted source. I felt and still do. So you go right now, folks, and you type up things, like “thyroid health and essential oils” you literally will get hundreds of thousands of hits on Google. And you know what, 99.9% of all of those are not evidence-based. They’re completely made up. Now I’m not saying they’re bad. I’m not saying that they’re fake, I’m saying that these people are talking about things that either they have no right talking about or they’re just passing on—or they’re just sharing their story. And I can’t discount that. I love when people share their testimonies but when people say these top seven oils are good for thyroid health says who? – coz I’ve looked. I’ve spent hours trying to find research, it’s not there. So  here’s my recommendation— is especially for beginning. In health, but particularly with essential oils, limit your teachers, limit your mentors, find two or three people at the most that you’re gonna follow and follow them. And follow them until the point where you realize, like me, I remember I’ll never feels like 2008, I kinda outgrew Dr. Mercola. I’m like, “Wow, I get this now.” I’ve been reading his newsletter faithfully for like five years.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: I got this stuff done, you know.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. I get it.

Dr. Eric Zielinski:  Yeah. You need to do that folks because the problem is, if you listen to 15-20 different people and let all these people’s voices get in your mind, you’re gonna get confused. I get it all the time so whether it’s me, whether it’s other Dr. so-and-so.com, you gotta find one or two or possibly three people, and follow them, trust them, vet that them out. I’m— who are they?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love it.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: Yeah. And so once you do, and the same thing with your essential oil company, same thing with your supplement company, same thing with your doctor, once they’re vetted, then you could really hone in and start to get good at this stuff. And that’s it. I’ll tell you. I’ll be the first to say, I’m not perfect, I make mistakes, but you know what, Justin, I regularly go back to my website and fix stuff because I realize, “Oh, that was wrong. Lemme fix that quick.” You wanna find someone like that and I would be honored and privileged, folks if you follow me. I have 150,000 people on my newsletter every week, getting my information. I have hundreds and thousands of people hitting my site every month. So I would be honored and privileged if you do, but if not, find someone that you trust and just— just dive in.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Awesome, man. I appreciate it. Very good. And last thing, one essential oil you can only bring it to a dessert island, you’re stuck there for life, what’s that essential oil?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: It’d be orange.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Orange. I love it. And then what’s the website, Eric?

Dr. Eric Zielinski: drericz.com

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: drericz.com Eric, you’ve been an awesome guest. You’re the man; we appreciate it, helping people every day. You have an awesome weekend.

Dr. Eric Zielinski: You too, man. Thanks for having me.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Thank you.













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