Activate the Parasympathetic Nervous System to Improve Recovery | Podcast #310

While often overlooked, the role of the nervous system in recovery is paramount. In this video, Dr. J and Jodi Cohen – a bestselling author, award-winning journalist, and founder of Vibrant Blue Oil. They highlight the key physical and mental/emotional factors that stress the nervous system, activate the parasympathetic nervous system for optimal recovery, and how it is connected to your vagus nerve, and how it can affect motility. 

We often hear meditation and massage are two potent techniques to help with physical recovery from exercise and lower the body’s mental stress response. Jodi here also introduce oils that are so stimulatory, most especially to your vagus nerve, which large divisions of this nerve extends to the digestive system. Also, the vagus nerve sends commands (when the body is not under stress)that slow heart and breathing rates and increases digestion. 

Check out this podcast and learn more on how you can apply this to your daily living!

Dr. Justin Marchegiani

Dr. Justin Marchegiani

In this episode, we cover:

0:18     Parasympathetic

3:54     Vibrant and Blue Oils

7:38     Clove and Lime

20:08    Nutrients that Support the Oils

23:02    “Essential Oils to Boost the Brain and Heal the Body”

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Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hey guys, it’s Dr. Justin Marchegiani here really excited to have a awesome podcast guest today Jody Cohen is going to be talking about the parasympathetic summit, which is going to be all about how to promote parasympathetic nervous system, which is about helping your body heal and improve. Jody, welcome to the podcast.

Jodi Cohen: Oh, my God, so honored to be here. Thank you. And I feel like the timing is perfect. For people who don’t really know what parasympathetic is your nervous system, your autonomic nervous system, which controls your automatic functions like breathing, heart re digestion, immunity has kind of two gears, when your body thinks there’s danger and it has to survive, it presses the gas pedal, and kind of routes all of your blood flow and your oxygen to your arms and your legs so that you can either fight back or flee. And then the danger passes, and you hit the brakes, which is the parasympathetic, and everything returns to normal. And it’s kind of like cleaning up after the party, right? You can digest your food, blood flow routes back to your digestion. And what happens especially now when we’re so anxious, you know, anticipatory stress makes the body think it’s in danger, we kind of get stuck in the wrong gear. And so all of those maintenance cleanup health functions, kind of get put on the back burner. And if they stay on the back burner forever, your health kind of suffers.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: People talk about the parasympathetic nervous system, a lot of times that’s connected to the vagus nerve, correct?

Jodi Cohen: Yes, exactly. Your Vegas nerve is really the gearshift between that fight or flight, sympathetic state and the rest and digest parasympathetic state.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, and the Vegas that that terminology means the wanderer, so it’s the nerve that goes from the brainstem and kind of wanders down and it hits all of the, the organs like you talked about a lot of digestive impacts regarding the parasympathetic because we need good HCl and enzyme so like to be able to get access to all of those nutrients. And to break all your proteins and fats and antioxidants down, we need good digestive support and getting into the parasympathetics helps that.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, I could actually the Vegas nerve wanders through every organ of digestion. So it triggers your mouth to release saliva, which helps start to break down those proteins so that they’re better absorbed and your stomach releases hydrochloric acid, it helps the pancreas release digestive enzymes, the gallbladder release bile. And then the most important thing that people don’t know is it kind of helps with the motility wave. Think of it as kind of like, you know, the moving walkway that goes through your system and make sure that things don’t stay too long in your gut and cause like cebo, or, you know, IBS or any problems, you know, and also make sure that you don’t get constipated, so that things leave, so that when you’re kind of stuck in fight or flight sympathetic dominance, all you know that the moving walkway doesn’t go and that’s when problems occur.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So anyone listening to this right now, if you’re liking what you’re hearing, make sure you click down below, we’re gonna put a link for the parasympathetic summit right down below, so make sure you subscribe. I was part of that summit along with a 30 other-

Jodi Cohen: I know, I know. I can’t. Well, you know what it is I am anxious. And so I started really early. And so I had almost everything done a month before the deadline. And then wonderful people like you who I’ve loved and admired said Oh, can I get on? I’m like, oh my god. Yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s great. That’s Yeah, very cool. So I urge everyone listening to subscribe to get access to that awesome info. So you have a website vibrant and blue oils? Yeah, you use a lot of oils that kind of help people promote healing relaxation. Can you give me like a top three lists that you use to kind of get that parasympathetic nervous response activated? 

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. And I just want to back up the reason I found oils, um, I, my now ex has been attempted suicide and had to be hospitalized. And once I knew he was safe, and it wasn’t my job to keep him alive. I hit rock bottom, the kids were five and seven at the time, so it wasn’t super convenient to sleep all day. And I you know, I knew enough and it was my adrenals I kept trying to ingest remedies to help the adrenals and nothing was working. Um, a friend brought over oils, and I kind of made up a blend that I topically applied for the adrenals and it worked right away. And what I didn’t realize is chronic cortisol leads to inflammation of the gut. So my gut was so damaged, that nothing I was taking, like ingesting was really getting absorbed and assimilated. So that’s how I got into oils because I realized, oh, even if your gut is really messed up, you can still smell things you can still you know, we know that like nicotine patches or hormone creams go in through the skin. So that’s why I got started in oils. And then I started realizing because I’ve been in clinical practice. The blind spots, you know, if someone is deficient in vitamin D, that’s easy. You can supplement with vitamin B, if they’re stuck in parasympathetic or a second sympathetic, that was hard, you know, in a lot of the remedy is that, you know, you can teach people to breathe or meditate people, that’s hard. It’s not like an instant skill, you can say splash your face with freezing water, you know, which causes the blood flow to come to warm it up. People don’t like it either. It’s uncomfortable. They didn’t like gagging cells with a tongue depressor. But what I realized because the anatomy of the vagus nerve, as you said, it starts at the back of the head. And then it splits and whines around both sides. And it’s actually most accessible and the thickest, kind of right here. Like if you touch behind your earlobe, on your master bone. It’s like the width of a piano court there, you know, and it’s smaller and other places. So that’s why they actually do this kind of surgery, it’s a little bit like a pacemaker surgery. And they implant an electrical device here, and then a battery down below me, it’s pretty invasive. But you can use oils, oils are super stimulatory like clove, which has a million other benefits. And then lime has really small molecules, it’s kind of like, you know, when you combine colors, you can take blue and red, put them together and you get purple, which is different than you can add white and make it lavender. You know, you can combine oils, and it kind of draws the best from both of them. So I created this blend, parasympathetic, that’s clothing line. And what’s super cool is, you know, you might not be able to deep breathe, you might struggle with meditation and fall asleep, but you can dab a little thing right here, you can carry this in your purse, this is a really easy thing to comply with. And then you feel better. You’re like, Okay, I’m not constipated. Okay, my I don’t feel bloated. Okay, I feel a little bit like calmer and less anxious. You know, and, as you know, like the supplements that people know, help them, like they feel less tired. They’re really good at compliance. Once you figure out this is working for me, you’re all in.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And it’s a good replacement. For some people, they’re they’re already used to like reaching for a medication, well, let’s try something a little bit more natural. That’s going to have a good benefit. It’s not going to have the side effects. And it’s the least you know, good step to other healthy things. I imagine. Yes. What you’re doing oils, you’re probably now thinking about the food you’re eating and other Yes, your habits too. So it kind of creates an awareness, I imagine as well.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, and definitely that cascade. Yeah. You know, it’s like crawl before you walk, walk before you run. Yeah. Once you’re like, Okay, I did that, like I used to in yoga. You know, sometimes these teachers would be so sneaky and suddenly you’re doing like a handstand or headstand. And you’re like, had no idea I could do that. What else can I do?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right? That’s awesome. Very cool. Yeah, you have that parasympathetic lead, I think you say clove and lime. Is that true?

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. Yeah. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I would think like, you’d have maybe like a lavender or something like that. I’m just curious what your –

Jodi Cohen: Well, you know, originally, no, no, and a lot of people that’s a great question. Originally, I was thinking like, Oh, it’s parasympathetic. It should be sedated. You know, when oils like lavender Kammen meal. No, we know that they’re all relaxing, you know, frankincense, even the resins? Yeah, um, but I realized that what it is, is you need to stimulate it. It’s kind of like, if you think about, you know, the old cars, we actually have to manually shift gears is to do something active and energizing to kind of change lanes. So this stimulates the vagus nerve, and in stimulating it, it’s like, oh, you know, I’m switching gears. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And you’re using that access point, with the nerves a little bit more superficial and more Yes, to get access to it.

Jodi Cohen: Exactly, exactly. And the other cool thing is, um, you know, there’s a researcher out of tufts Michael Vanek, or talks about the vagus nerve infection hypothesis. And basically, it’s this idea that the vagus nerve has such a broad depth and you know, it gets into your system everywhere. So any kind of small minor infection can basically the body can pick it up as you’re infected, and it goes into like cell danger response or sickness response. So you get tired so you don’t move chronic fatigue syndrome, you have pain so you don’t move fibromyalgia. A lot of these things can be traced to an infection in the Vegas nerve and the most likely one of the doctors on the summit, Marco Rubio, he did this extensive research where he was taking ultrasounds of people’s necks, and he was finding that often the Vegas nerve was infected there because, you know, we have all these toxins in our mouth that drain out and you know, and they’re exacerbated if you have like metal amalgams or any kind of cavitation you know, that has been compromised your root canal. So think about, you know, congestion point a bottleneck. You have toxins draining along the trigeminal nerve, they intersect with the Vegas nerve, you know, the neck has the structure of the limb, the blood vessels, the nerves, you know, any kind of compromise if you know as a chiropractor if things Aren’t flowing that can get congested. So the toxins accumulate here. clove actually has, it has this constituent called eugenol. And it’s been used in dentistry for years because it does two things. It numbs the pain and it actually helps to address the underlying toxins. So if there is a toxicity or an infection, that’s, you know, think of it like you’re on an airplane, right? If you’re in a row of seats, and you’re in the middle row, and the people on either side of you are not petite people, you’re not getting that armrest, you know, you’re really compressed and congested. So if the Vegas nerve is congested, it’s bumping into the vascular system, you’re not getting the blood flow, it’s bumping into the lymph, you’re not getting the drainage. So anything you can do and Dr. Russo actually walks you through step by step, how they started to, you know, topically apply remedies to cause less congestion in the lymph and all of a sudden the Vegas nerve. You can see it in the pictures. It’s kind of amazing. What kind of evidence was he doing his trials. He was using Christine sharpeners, he created their Sophia flow cream, which is a combination of essential oils and then other remedies. But what’s interesting is that most people don’t think about topically, you know, most people are kind of like have lymphie need to dry better shirt rebounder, you know that we don’t really have anything for that. But we do. It’s these topically applied remedies, we actually have a limp oil. It’s a lot of menten and things that kind of help open up vasculature and drainage. And she uses some oils in her product too. They’re both good, right? You know, it’s kinda like you get out there, right? Yeah, exactly. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: There’s a lot of ways you can skin a cat so to speak. Did you choose those oils? Was it your own clinical experience? Was it research that you saw? How did that? 

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, that’s a good question. So the reason I got into nutrition was my own squirmy kid. You know, my first kid was super easy. I just assumed I was this great. Mom had another 120 minutes later.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I’ve seen that having two kids now I know exactly what you’re talking about.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. And he was just wild, a wild child. Like I really thought, like, you know, like, you have the parenting baby proof people come to your house. And they’re like, and here’s this oven lock, because some kids climb in the oven, you know, and with my first one is like, no, no kid, kid climbs in the oven. Oh, number two, you just like that, that I had that kid that did those things. And a friend noticed that he was being really well behaved. And then another mom handed out like a Ritz cracker and he Jekyll Hyde. And she said, You know, my brother was on Ritalin his whole life. And it turns out, he was just allergic to weird foods, you should check that out. I thought, I’ve done everything else, I can certainly do that. And we took them to nutritionist. She said he’s really sensitive to corn, soy and dairy. So we changed his diet. And we had a different kid the next day. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, how did I not know this? So I went back and got a degree in nutrition was trying to work with other screaming kids. And I mean, you know, like, if they can’t, if they’re wiggling all over it, it’s really hard to like, assess them. So I learned this technique called muscle testing, that’s a really good way to kind of ask the body questions, and it’s what I was doing in my practice to help identify what remedies were good for kids. And so when I first got introduced to oils, I was really, I have never been at this kind of rock bottom, like just so mentally and physically exhausted, like literally getting up to do anything felt like a strain. So, you know, someone gave me this box, and I’m so drained, I’m like, all right, I can muscle test. So basically, it’s intuition I muscle test I, every we have a blueprint in the body, right? There’s a blueprint for what healthy adrenal tissue is supposed to look like. And sometimes you do things and you don’t really realize that’s what you’re doing. That’s what I’ve been doing my practice the whole time is kind of identifying what organisms stress, and then using supplements to help return that organ to balance so it would function well. And so that was kind of the lens that I was looking through when I was making these formulas. So I was like, Alright, what what combination, you know, we humans have a blueprint. And plants also have blueprints. And humans and plants are bio familiar. So we share similar blueprints. So kind of like you can combine different colors to you know, match a picture in a landscape, you can combine different oils to match the blueprint of a healthy organ. So I was using intuition to come up with the formulation, you know, for a start, kind of identify this needs to be in it. And then I would play with what you know, 10% of this 20% of this, the different variables and then I have a team of people that kind of help me test it, and they test and then they can kind of mentally say like you We increase, you know, the Roman kameel from, you know, 12% to 13. So we’re just constantly refining and tweaking it. And then I go and I research, you know, okay, why? Why does balsam of Peru, which is a resin that’s drawn from these plants in you know, the Amazon in Peru and Brazil seem to help with sleep? What chemical constituents are present in this plant? Why is it working? And I would every single time be like, Oh, that makes complete sense. Why this is helping. And so that’s, that’s my process. It’s a little bit nutty, but it always seems to work.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Interesting. And you know, I also, I’m just curious, though, with your son, what were the oils that really helped because one thing I like about oils with kids, is some kids don’t want to swallow stuff. And they may be something in reverse, right? So it’s hard to get them to do stuff. So you can kind of covertly put some on your fingers rub their behind their ears and kind of get it in their bloodstream. So I like that what oils that you found were the best on on Macs. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hey guys, it’s Dr. Justin Marchegiani here really excited to have a awesome podcast guest today Jody Cohen is going to be talking about the parasympathetic summit, which is going to be all about how to promote parasympathetic nervous system, which is about helping your body heal and improve. Jody, welcome to the podcast.

Jodi Cohen: Oh, my God, so honored to be here. Thank you. And I feel like the timing is perfect. For people who don’t really know what parasympathetic is your nervous system, your autonomic nervous system, which controls your automatic functions like breathing, heart re digestion, immunity has kind of two gears, when your body thinks there’s danger and it has to survive, it presses the gas pedal, and kind of routes all of your blood flow and your oxygen to your arms and your legs so that you can either fight back or flee. And then the danger passes, and you hit the brakes, which is the parasympathetic, and everything returns to normal. And it’s kind of like cleaning up after the party, right? You can digest your food, blood flow routes back to your digestion. And what happens especially now when we’re so anxious, you know, anticipatory stress makes the body think it’s in danger, we kind of get stuck in the wrong gear. And so all of those maintenance cleanup health functions, kind of get put on the back burner. And if they stay on the back burner forever, your health kind of suffers.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: People talk about the parasympathetic nervous system, a lot of times that’s connected to the vagus nerve, correct?

Jodi Cohen: Yes, exactly. Your Vegas nerve is really the gearshift between that fight or flight, sympathetic state and the rest and digest parasympathetic state.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, and the Vegas that that terminology means the wanderer, so it’s the nerve that goes from the brainstem and kind of wanders down and it hits all of the, the organs like you talked about a lot of digestive impacts regarding the parasympathetic because we need good HCl and enzyme so like to be able to get access to all of those nutrients. And to break all your proteins and fats and antioxidants down, we need good digestive support and getting into the parasympathetics helps that.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, I could actually the Vegas nerve wanders through every organ of digestion. So it triggers your mouth to release saliva, which helps start to break down those proteins so that they’re better absorbed and your stomach releases hydrochloric acid, it helps the pancreas release digestive enzymes, the gallbladder release bile. And then the most important thing that people don’t know is it kind of helps with the motility wave. Think of it as kind of like, you know, the moving walkway that goes through your system and make sure that things don’t stay too long in your gut and cause like cebo, or, you know, IBS or any problems, you know, and also make sure that you don’t get constipated, so that things leave, so that when you’re kind of stuck in fight or flight sympathetic dominance, all you know that the moving walkway doesn’t go and that’s when problems occur.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So anyone listening to this right now, if you’re liking what you’re hearing, make sure you click down below, we’re gonna put a link for the parasympathetic summit right down below, so make sure you subscribe. I was part of that summit along with a 30 other-

Jodi Cohen: I know, I know. I can’t. Well, you know what it is I am anxious. And so I started really early. And so I had almost everything done a month before the deadline. And then wonderful people like you who I’ve loved and admired said Oh, can I get on? I’m like, oh my god. Yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s great. That’s Yeah, very cool. So I urge everyone listening to subscribe to get access to that awesome info. So you have a website vibrant and blue oils? Yeah, you use a lot of oils that kind of help people promote healing relaxation. Can you give me like a top three lists that you use to kind of get that parasympathetic nervous response activated? 

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. And I just want to back up the reason I found oils, um, I, my now ex has been attempted suicide and had to be hospitalized. And once I knew he was safe, and it wasn’t my job to keep him alive. I hit rock bottom, the kids were five and seven at the time, so it wasn’t super convenient to sleep all day. And I you know, I knew enough and it was my adrenals I kept trying to ingest remedies to help the adrenals and nothing was working. Um, a friend brought over oils, and I kind of made up a blend that I topically applied for the adrenals and it worked right away. And what I didn’t realize is chronic cortisol leads to inflammation of the gut. So my gut was so damaged, that nothing I was taking, like ingesting was really getting absorbed and assimilated. So that’s how I got into oils because I realized, oh, even if your gut is really messed up, you can still smell things you can still you know, we know that like nicotine patches or hormone creams go in through the skin. So that’s why I got started in oils. And then I started realizing because I’ve been in clinical practice The blind spots, you know, if someone’s deficient in vitamin D, that’s easy. You can supplement with vitamin B, if they’re stuck in parasympathetic or a second sympathetic, that was hard, you know, in a lot of the remedy is that, you know, you can teach people to breathe or meditate people, that’s hard. It’s not like an instant skill, you can say splash your face with freezing water, you know, which causes the blood flow to come to warm it up. People don’t like it either. It’s uncomfortable. They didn’t like gagging cells with a tongue depressor. But what I realized because the anatomy of the vagus nerve, as you said, it starts at the back of the head. And then it splits and whines around both sides. And it’s actually most accessible and the thickest, kind of right here. Like if you touch behind your earlobe, on your master bone. It’s like the width of a piano court there, you know, and it’s smaller and other places. So that’s why they actually do this kind of surgery, it’s a little bit like a pacemaker surgery. And they implant an electrical device here, and then a battery down below me, it’s pretty invasive. But you can use oils, oils are super stimulatory like clove, which has a million other benefits. And then lime has really small molecules, it’s kind of like, you know, when you combine colors, you can take blue and red, put them together and you get purple, which is different than you can add white and make it lavender. You know, you can combine oils, and it kind of draws the best from both of them. So I created this blend, parasympathetic, that’s clothing line. And what’s super cool is, you know, you might not be able to deep breathe, you might struggle with meditation and fall asleep, but you can dab a little thing right here, you can carry this in your purse, this is a really easy thing to comply with. And then you feel better. You’re like, Okay, I’m not constipated. Okay, my I don’t feel bloated. Okay, I feel a little bit like calmer and less anxious. You know, and, as you know, like the supplements that people know, help them, like they feel less tired. They’re really good at compliance. Once you figure out this is working for me, you’re all in.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And it’s a good replacement. For some people, they’re they’re already used to like reaching for a medication, well, let’s try something a little bit more natural. That’s going to have a good benefit. It’s not going to have the side effects. And it’s the least you know, good step to other healthy things. I imagine. Yes. What you’re doing oils, you’re probably now thinking about the food you’re eating and other Yes, your habits too. So it kind of creates an awareness, I imagine as well.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, and definitely that cascade. Yeah. You know, it’s like crawl before you walk, walk before you run. Yeah. Once you’re like, Okay, I did that, like I used to in yoga. You know, sometimes these teachers would be so sneaky and suddenly you’re doing like a handstand or headstand. And you’re like, had no idea I could do that. What else can I do?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right? That’s awesome. Very cool. Yeah, you have that parasympathetic lead, I think you say clove and lime. Is that true.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. Yeah. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I would think like, you’d have maybe like a lavender or something like that. I’m just curious what your –

Jodi Cohen: Well, you know, originally, no, no, and a lot of people that’s a great question. Originally, I was thinking like, Oh, it’s parasympathetic. It should be sedated. You know, when oils like lavender Kammen meal. No, we know that they’re all relaxing, you know, frankincense, even the resins? Yeah, um, but I realized that what it is, is you need to stimulate it. It’s kind of like, if you think about, you know, the old cars, we actually have to manually shift gears is to do something active and energizing to kind of change lanes. So this stimulates the vagus nerve, and in stimulating it, it’s like, oh, you know, I’m switching gears. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And you’re using that access point, with the nerves a little bit more superficial and more Yes, to get access to it.

Jodi Cohen: Exactly, exactly. And the other cool thing is, um, you know, there’s a researcher out of tufts Michael Vanek, or talks about the vagus nerve infection hypothesis. And basically, it’s this idea that the vagus nerve has such a broad depth and you know, it gets into your system everywhere. So any kind of small minor infection can basically the body can pick it up as you’re infected, and it goes into like cell danger response or sickness response. So you get tired so you don’t move chronic fatigue syndrome, you have pain so you don’t move fibromyalgia. A lot of these things can be traced to an infection in the Vegas nerve and the most likely one of the doctors on the summit, Marco Rubio, he did this extensive research where he was taking ultrasounds of people’s necks, and he was finding that often the Vegas nerve was infected there because, you know, we have all these toxins in our mouth that drain out and you know, and they’re exacerbated if you have like metal amalgams or any kind of cavitation you know, that has been compromised your root canal. So think about, you know, congestion point a bottleneck. You have toxins draining along the trigeminal nerve, they intersect with the Vegas nerve, you know, the neck has the structure of the limb, the blood vessels, the nerves, you know, any kind of compromise if you know as a chiropractor if things Aren’t flowing that can get congested. So the toxins accumulate here. clove actually has, it has this constituent called eugenol. And it’s been used in dentistry for years because it does two things. It numbs the pain and it actually helps to address the underlying toxins. So if there is a toxicity or an infection, that’s, you know, think of it like you’re on an airplane, right? If you’re in a row of seats, and you’re in the middle row, and the people on either side of you are not petite people, you’re not getting that armrest, you know, you’re really compressed and congested. So if the Vegas nerve is congested, it’s bumping into the vascular system, you’re not getting the blood flow, it’s bumping into the lymph, you’re not getting the drainage. So anything you can do and Dr. Russo actually walks you through step by step, how they started to, you know, topically apply remedies to cause less congestion in the lymph and all of a sudden the Vegas nerve. You can see it in the pictures. It’s kind of amazing. What kind of evidence was he doing his trials. He was using Christine sharpeners, he created their Sophia flow cream, which is a combination of essential oils and then other remedies. But what’s interesting is that most people don’t think about topically, you know, most people are kind of like have lymphie need to dry better shirt rebounder, you know that we don’t really have anything for that. But we do. It’s these topically applied remedies, we actually have a limp oil. It’s a lot of menten and things that kind of help open up vasculature and drainage. And she uses some oils in her product too. They’re both good, right? You know, it’s kinda like you get out there, right? Yeah, exactly. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: There’s a lot of ways you can skin a cat so to speak. Did you choose those oils? Was it your own clinical experience? Was it research that you saw? How did that? 

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, that’s a good question. So the reason I got into nutrition was my own squirmy kid. You know, my first kid was super easy. I just assumed I was this great. Mom had another 120 minutes later.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I’ve seen that having two kids now I know exactly what you’re talking about.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. And he was just wild, a wild child. Like I really thought, like, you know, like, you have the parenting baby proof people come to your house. And they’re like, and here’s this oven lock, because some kids climb in the oven, you know, and with my first one is like, no, no kid, kid climbs in the oven. Oh, number two, you just like that, that I had that kid that did those things. And a friend noticed that he was being really well behaved. And then another mom handed out like a Ritz cracker and he Jekyll Hyde. And she said, You know, my brother was on Ritalin his whole life. And it turns out, he was just allergic to weird foods, you should check that out. I thought, I’ve done everything else, I can certainly do that. And we took them to nutritionist. She said he’s really sensitive to corn, soy and dairy. So we changed his diet. And we had a different kid the next day. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, how did I not know this? So I went back and got a degree in nutrition was trying to work with other screaming kids. And I mean, you know, like, if they can’t, if they’re wiggling all over it, it’s really hard to like, assess them. So I learned this technique called muscle testing, that’s a really good way to kind of ask the body questions, and it’s what I was doing in my practice to help identify what remedies were good for kids. And so when I first got introduced to oils, I was really, I have never been at this kind of rock bottom, like just so mentally and physically exhausted, like literally getting up to do anything felt like a strain. So, you know, someone gave me this box, and I’m so drained, I’m like, all right, I can muscle test. So basically, it’s intuition I muscle test I, every we have a blueprint in the body, right? There’s a blueprint for what healthy adrenal tissue is supposed to look like. And sometimes you do things and you don’t really realize that’s what you’re doing. That’s what I’ve been doing my practice the whole time is kind of identifying what organisms stress, and then using supplements to help return that organ to balance so it would function well. And so that was kind of the lens that I was looking through when I was making these formulas. So I was like, Alright, what what combination, you know, we humans have a blueprint. And plants also have blueprints. And humans and plants are bio familiar. So we share similar blueprints. So kind of like you can combine different colors to you know, match a picture in a landscape, you can combine different oils to match the blueprint of a healthy organ. So I was using intuition to come up with the formulation, you know, for a start, kind of identify this needs to be in it. And then I would play with what you know, 10% of this 20% of this, the different variables and then I have a team of people that kind of help me test it, and they test and then they can kind of mentally say like you We increase, you know, the Roman kameel from, you know, 12% to 13. So we’re just constantly refining and tweaking it. And then I go and I research, you know, okay, why? Why does balsam of Peru, which is a resin that’s drawn from these plants in you know, the Amazon in Peru and Brazil seem to help with sleep? What chemical constituents are present in this plant? Why is it working? And I would every single time be like, Oh, that makes complete sense. Why this is helping. And so that’s, that’s my process. It’s a little bit nutty, but it always seems to work.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Interesting. And you know, I also, I’m just curious, though, with your son, what were the oils that really helped because one thing I like about oils with kids, is some kids don’t want to swallow stuff. And they may be something in reverse, right? So it’s hard to get them to do stuff. So you can kind of covertly put some on your fingers rub their behind their ears and kind of get it in their bloodstream. So I like that what oils that you found were the best on on Macs. 

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, so I definitely use parasympathetic. But you know, kids are so intuitive. Like, I think as we get older, we forget or we feel uncomfortable that you know, when the phone’s ringing, we somehow know it’s going to be our mother or, you know, we lose track of that. So with kids, I always kind of do a smell bar and I let them pick whatever they like best he loved orange. And orange is, you know, all of the citrus blends are really calming. And they also help with focus. And you know, a lot of them that are expensive, like Neroli and bergama. You know, those are kind of touted, but orange is super affordable, and kids love it. So he would like to smell that we’d have him do that before he did homework. You know, I give him a little foot rub before bed. But that was just I just let him pick it That was his favorite. But the ones that helped him the most. Definitely parasympathetic adrenal, because he’d get really wire you know, he was like a firecracker. He was always on. So just helping him to calm down. And then sometimes like liver because he, you know, he he inherited my ashkenazic liver, which is, you know, I think the reason that a lot of the traditional Jewish foods are like beets, borscht, chopped liver, you know, we eat all of the foods that we need so that our liver actually works because I think we have a little bit of a genetic detriment-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: When you use that adrenal and liver, what would those oils be to support those organs? 

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, I have it all listed out on my site. But and actually in the I have a book coming out in March of 2016, that I’m going to share the recipes because with COVID It breaks my heart, you know, you really can’t get anything into Australia these days. And it’s super hard to get things to Europe and I and India and I have these people that are like I think my, my poor husband could really benefit and I’m like, Oh my gosh, I’m just going to give out the recipe. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s March 2021. Right? 

Jodi Cohen: March 2021, March 16. It’s an essential oils to boost the brain and heal the body. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Awesome. That’s great. So what else can people do? We talked about parasympathetics. Right. We know the adrenal plays a major role and different things. Obviously, food nutrition can help with that. What are some things clinically they use? Yeah, clients or on the oil side that you see adrenals.

Jodi Cohen: So Titus, two, who’s a colleague and a functional neurologist, which means that he is looking at what part of the brain You know, it was cute. At one point, I took my son to a functional neurologist, and he had all these little personality things that I thought were him, you know, like he couldn’t walk a straight line to save his life. He would like what diagonal Walker, he would always spill stuff on himself, he had no spatial awareness. And it turns out, his left brain was much more dominant than his right hemisphere of the brain. So we have Dr. Robert millio, who really talks about using oils to kind of balance the hemispheres. And to kind of a quick parasympathetic trick Titus two talks about how anxiety and panic attacks is over activation of your right frontal lobe. And so to kind of calm and balance that you then activate the left frontal lobe, and that puts the two hemispheres in balance. And functional neurologists use essential oils a lot in their practice, because your your nose, your olfactory nerve, you know, number one goes directly to you know, sometimes in the body, the right brain controls the left body, your olfactory channels go directly to this frontal part. Yeah, exactly. So you can just smell something, you know, it can be anything you like, it can be lavender, it can be orange, it can be parasympathetic, you know, you can actually like dry breathing, plug one nostril, smell through the left nostril, that activates the left frontal lobe balances the brain, you feel less anxious. I anxiety is my thing. My daughter’s thing too. I have panic attacks, I have all these things and that always helps you I basically, even if I’m walking my dog, this is in my pocket in case I need it. So that is my favorite quick fix. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: What about high levels of cortisol? Obviously, high levels of cortisol can cause anxiety, right? So you mentioned maybe that plays a big role. Anything you do to help with the high adrenaline or high cortisol state? Yeah, add any like nutrients in to kind of be supportive to those oils. 

Jodi Cohen: I mean, there are tons of nutrients that are helpful. And you know, if you’re able to digest like, there are a lot of adaptogenic herbs that I love, like ashwagandha rhodiola. But one thing that I’ve, I think that oils work like adaptogenic herbs, like one of the things, you know, I’ve done those 24 hour cortisol tests where you’re spitting in the tube. And what I found is that it’s not flatline. It’s not like my cortisol level is either too high all the time or too low all the time. You know, it’s too high at night when I’m trying to go to sleep and too low in the morning when I need energy. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. And you know, if you think about the nutrients that you can take the supplements, you kind of have to turn it right. You know, like, if you’re already too high, and you’re taking something that makes it higher, that’s not going to be such a positive experience. So with oils, we have two blends. One is the adrenal blend that just kind of evens you out. If you’re too high, it takes it down or too low brings you up, and then one for the hypothalamus. And this is something that most people don’t talk about, they just assume that all cortisol is related to the adrenals, not realizing that it’s a bit of a cascade, the hypothalamus, pituitary axis, your hypothalamus in your brain controls all your endocrine organs, it’s constantly reading the environment and signals in your body to figure out how do we return it to balance you know, like, when you’re driving, at one point, you might be a little too far to the left. So you just course correct, your hypothalamus is your course corrector. And it does that by sending chemical messages to kind of the COO, the one who executes your pituitary gland, which then sends message to your thyroid, your adrenals, all of your endocrine organs. So sometimes it’s called this negative feedback loop, the hypothalamus sends these messages out, then messages come back. And it kind of course, corrects, like, oh, we’re good on cortisol, we don’t need more. And if the, you know, the hypothalamus is kind of overwhelmed, you know, like, my friend likes to say you can’t move along when the house is on fire, you know, if there’s so much going on, it can be like your phone, and it just doesn’t get the right information and send things out. So we have a blend, it’s hard to get things into the brain. I mean, that’s the biggest challenge. And the biggest Aha, with oils, they’re super small and fat soluble. So they cross the blood brain barrier. So we have one, it contains pine, which has a lot of research on it, but you just put it right here. And it’s almost like it sends the right frequency, the right blueprint, whatever you want to call it, to return the hypothalamus to balance so that it’s then sending better messages to the adrenal so that you’re not so hyper cortisol or hyper cortisol.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s good. Excellent. Yeah. So you got your book coming out this March 16 2021, what’s the book gonna be called?

Jodi Cohen: It’s called “Essential Oils to Boost the Brain and Heal the Body.” And you can grab it on Amazon presale, Amazon pre sells anything, you know, you basically they match the best price ever. So if you if you’re a bargain shopper, and we’re actually going to have a gift card so that you can add a stocking stuffers so that if you want to buy the book, you know, we’ll send you a little coupon that you can put into the stocking with like a deal on getting an oil like parasympathetic to go with it. It’s great.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, and your favorite so far as what parasympathetic. 

Jodi Cohen: I love parasympathetic. And honestly, with everything that’s going on, we have a blend called circulation that has a lot of Cyprus, I’ve found and a lot of clinicians have found like, if you’re concerned about getting sick, Cyprus does a really wonderful job of kind of protecting the lung lining. So, you know, they talk about this current concern, it kind of happens in two phases, right? It either gets into the lungs and the lungs lining a solid and it doesn’t go any further and it was a minor cold, or it gets into your system and causes a cytokine storm. So you kind of want to make sure that that bouncer at the gate of your lungs is really working well. And so the circulation oil, I just put over my lungs and also helps if I need to, I’m on deadline and I have to get something done. I put a little bit at the base of my skull, because that improves oxygen flow in the blood and when you have more blood and more oxygen flow, it’s easier to focus. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love that. That’s awesome. Very cool. Well, any other clinical pearls so we have the parasympathetic summit, um, in that but other great speakers 50 Plus you said we’ll put the link down below so if you guys are loving it, click down below make sure you register. We also got the link for Jodi’s website, vibrantblueoils.com those are gonna be there for you as well. March 16 2021, we’ll get the book up there pre presale Amazon like anything else. Go you know, listen to the show. Listen with?

Jodi Cohen: You know what’s funny? Like we’re about to come into Thanksgiving, holiday gratitude. And the fastest way that you can shift yourself into parasympathetic is mindset and gratitude. So if you’re worried about what’s going on in the world, just focus on what you’re grateful for. It could be something as simple as the ability to move your body and to take a breath and to have you know, it’s a gorgeous day here in Seattle to have a sunny sky, you know? Yep. So, you know, I guess I would just like to leave on that. Note that how you choose to experience the world is in your control, and you can always be grateful for things.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I like it. Yeah. When you need the world to kind of conform to the things that you want, then you tend to be like, let down yeah. When you can basically put your focus on the things that you want to appreciate, right? Yeah, in the driver’s seat. So like, that’s definitely an empowering. 

Jodi Cohen: Yes. Yes. You always get to be you always are in control of how you feel and how you think. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Well, thanks so much, Jody, head over to vibrantblueoils.com, parasympathetic summit links down below. Hope you guys enjoyed today’s podcast. Have a good one. Jodi, great chatting with you.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, so I definitely use parasympathetic. But you know, kids are so intuitive. Like, I think as we get older, we forget or we feel uncomfortable that you know, when the phone’s ringing, we somehow know it’s going to be our mother or, you know, we lose track of that. So with kids, I always kind of do a smell bar and I let them pick whatever they like best he loved orange. And orange is, you know, all of the citrus blends are really calming. And they also help with focus. And you know, a lot of them that are expensive, like Neroli and bergama. You know, those are kind of touted, but orange is super affordable, and kids love it. So he would like to smell that we’d have him do that before he did homework. You know, I give him a little foot rub before bed. But that was just I just let him pick it That was his favorite. But the ones that helped him the most. Definitely parasympathetic adrenal, because he’d get really wire you know, he was like a firecracker. He was always on. So just helping him to calm down. And then sometimes like liver because he, you know, he he inherited my ashkenazic liver, which is, you know, I think the reason that a lot of the traditional Jewish foods are like beets, borscht, chopped liver, you know, we eat all of the foods that we need so that our liver actually works because I think we have a little bit of a genetic detriment-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: When you use that adrenal and liver, what would those oils be to support those organs? 

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, I have it all listed out on my site. But and actually in the I have a book coming out in March of 2016, that I’m going to share the recipes because with COVID It breaks my heart, you know, you really can’t get anything into Australia these days. And it’s super hard to get things to Europe and I and India and I have these people that are like I think my, my poor husband could really benefit and I’m like, Oh my gosh, I’m just going to give out the recipe. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s March 2021. Right? 

Jodi Cohen: March 2021, March 16. It’s an essential oils to boost the brain and heal the body. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Awesome. That’s great. So what else can people do? We talked about parasympathetics. Right. We know the adrenal is play a major role and different things. Obviously, food nutrition can help with that. What are some things clinically they use? Yeah, clients or on the oil side that you see adrenals.

Jodi Cohen: So Titus, two, who’s a colleague and a functional neurologist, which means that he is looking at what part of the brain You know, it was cute. At one point, I took my son to a functional neurologist, and he had all these little personality things that I thought were him, you know, like he couldn’t walk a straight line to save his life. He would like what diagonal Walker, he would always spill stuff on himself, he had no spatial awareness. And it turns out, his left brain was much more dominant than his right hemisphere of the brain. So we have Dr. Robert millio, who really talks about using oils to kind of balance the hemispheres. And to kind of a quick parasympathetic trick Titus two talks about how anxiety and panic attacks is over activation of your right frontal lobe. And so to kind of calm and balance that you then activate the left frontal lobe, and that puts the two hemispheres in balance. And functional neurologists use essential oils a lot in their practice, because your your nose, your olfactory nerve, you know, number one goes directly to you know, sometimes in the body, the right brain controls the left body, your olfactory channels go directly to this frontal part. Yeah, exactly. So you can just smell something, you know, it can be anything you like, it can be lavender, it can be orange, it can be parasympathetic, you know, you can actually like dry breathing, plug one nostril, smell through the left nostril, that activates the left frontal lobe balances the brain, you feel less anxious. I anxiety is my thing. My daughter’s thing too. I have panic attacks, I have all these things and that always helps you I basically, even if I’m walking my dog, this is in my pocket in case I need it. So that is my favorite quick fix. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: What about high levels of cortisol? Obviously, high levels of cortisol can cause anxiety, right? So you mentioned maybe that plays a big role. Anything you do to help with the high adrenaline or high cortisol state? Yeah, add any like nutrients in to kind of be supportive to those oils. 

Jodi Cohen: I mean, there are tons of nutrients that are helpful. And you know, if you’re able to digest like, there are a lot of adaptogenic herbs that I love, like ashwagandha rhodiola. But one thing that I’ve, I think that oils work like adaptogenic herbs, like one of the things, you know, I’ve done those 24 hour cortisol tests where you’re spitting in the tube. And what I found is that it’s not flatline. It’s not like my cortisol level is either too high all the time or too low all the time. You know, it’s too high at night when I’m trying to go to sleep and too low in the morning when I need energy. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. And you know, if you think about the nutrients that you can take the supplements, you kind of have to turn it right. You know, like, if you’re already too high, and you’re taking something that makes it higher, that’s not going to be such a positive experience. So with oils, we have two blends. One is the adrenal blend that just kind of evens you out. If you’re too high, it takes it down or too low brings you up, and then one for the hypothalamus. And this is something that most people don’t talk about, they just assume that all cortisol is related to the adrenals, not realizing that it’s a bit of a cascade, the hypothalamus, pituitary axis, your hypothalamus in your brain controls all your endocrine organs, it’s constantly reading the environment and signals in your body to figure out how do we return it to balance you know, like, when you’re driving, at one point, you might be a little too far to the left. So you just course correct, your hypothalamus is your course corrector. And it does that by sending chemical messages to kind of the COO, the one who executes your pituitary gland, which then sends message to your thyroid, your adrenals, all of your endocrine organs. So sometimes it’s called this negative feedback loop, the hypothalamus sends these messages out, then messages come back. And it kind of course, corrects, like, oh, we’re good on cortisol, we don’t need more. And if the, you know, the hypothalamus is kind of overwhelmed, you know, like, my friend likes to say you can’t move along when the house is on fire, you know, if there’s so much going on, it can be like your phone, and it just doesn’t get the right information and send things out. So we have a blend, it’s hard to get things into the brain. I mean, that’s the biggest challenge. And the biggest Aha, with oils, they’re super small and fat soluble. So they cross the blood brain barrier. So we have one, it contains pine, which has a lot of research on it, but you just put it right here. And it’s almost like it sends the right frequency, the right blueprint, whatever you want to call it, to return the hypothalamus to balance so that it’s then sending better messages to the adrenal so that you’re not so hyper cortisol or hyper cortisol.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s good. Excellent. Yeah. So you got your book coming out this March 16 2021, what’s the book gonna be called?

Jodi Cohen: It’s called “Essential Oils to Boost the Brain and Heal the Body.” And you can grab it on Amazon presale, Amazon pre sells anything, you know, you basically they match the best price ever. So if you if you’re a bargain shopper, and we’re actually going to have a gift card so that you can add a stocking stuffers so that if you want to buy the book, you know, we’ll send you a little coupon that you can put into the stocking with like a deal on getting an oil like parasympathetic to go with it. It’s great.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, and your favorite so far as what parasympathetic. 

Jodi Cohen: I love parasympathetic. And honestly, with everything that’s going on, we have a blend called circulation that has a lot of Cyprus, I’ve found and a lot of clinicians have found like, if you’re concerned about getting sick, Cyprus does a really wonderful job of kind of protecting the lung lining. So, you know, they talk about this current concern, it kind of happens in two phases, right? It either gets into the lungs and the lungs lining a solid and it doesn’t go any further and it was a minor cold, or it gets into your system and causes a cytokine storm. So you kind of want to make sure that that bouncer at the gate of your lungs is really working well. And so the circulation oil, I just put over my lungs and also helps if I need to, I’m on deadline and I have to get something done. I put a little bit at the base of my skull, because that improves oxygen flow in the blood and when you have more blood and more oxygen flow, it’s easier to focus. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love that. That’s awesome. Very cool. Well, any other clinical pearls so we have the parasympathetic summit, um, in that but other great speakers 50 Plus you said we’ll put the link down below so if you guys are loving it, click down below make sure you register. We also got the link for Jodi’s website, vibrantblueoils.com those are gonna be there for you as well. March 16 2021, we’ll get the book up there pre presale Amazon like anything else. Go you know, listen to the show. Listen with?

Jodi Cohen: You know what’s funny? Like we’re about to come into Thanksgiving, holiday gratitude. And the fastest way that you can shift yourself into parasympathetic is mindset and gratitude. So if you’re worried about what’s going on in the world, just focus on what you’re grateful for. It could be something as simple as the ability to move your body and to take a breath and to have you know, it’s a gorgeous day here in Seattle to have a sunny sky, you know? Yep. So, you know, I guess I would just like to leave on that. Note that how you choose to experience the world is in your control, and you can always be grateful for things.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I like it. Yeah. When you need the world to kind of conform to the things that you want, then you tend to be like, let down yeah. When you can basically put your focus on the things that you want to appreciate, right? Yeah, in the driver’s seat. So like, that’s definitely an empowering. 

Jodi Cohen: Yes. Yes. You always get to be you always are in control of how you feel and how you think. 

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Well, thanks so much, Jody, head over to vibrantblueoils.com, parasympathetic summit links down below. Hope you guys enjoyed today’s podcast. Have a good one. Jodi, great chatting with you.


References:

https://justinhealth.com/

https://parasympatheticsummit.com

https://vibrantblueoils.com/

https://amzn.to/3lCizd9

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Antimicrobial Efficacy of Essential Oils & How to Use Them

By Dr. Justin Marchegiani

Essential oils are aromatic compounds extracted from plants, commonly through steam distillation or cold pressed methods. An essential oil from one plant may contain anywhere from a dozen to several hundred individual compounds. Even trace amounts of these components are important pieces of what makes each oil unique.

History of Essential Oils

Essential oils have been used across the world for centuries. Ancient Egypt is commonly referred to as the birthplace of essential oils, where these plant extracts were used for cosmetic and medical purposes as early as 4500 BC. Aromatherapeutic uses of essential oils in traditional Chinese medicine date back to the period between 3000 and 2000 BC. 

Efficacy of Essential Oils

Just about every essential oil has antimicrobial properties and have been scientifically proven to demonstrate anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral activity. In fact, essential oils have even been efficient in fighting drug resistant strains which conventional antibiotics have failed to treat! 

In fungal pathogens, essential oils are able to cross the cell wall and disrupt ATP assembly. In bacterial infections, essential oils destabilize and help break down the membrane integrity. Essential oils have antiviral activity against RNA and DNA viruses, such as herpes (types 1 and 2), dengue virus, influenza (the flu), poliovirus, and coxsackievirus (hand, foot, and mouth disease). 

Lemongrass, eucalyptus, peppermint and orange oils were tested against 22 bacteria, including Gram-positive and Gram-negative– they were effective against all 22 bacterial strains.

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Oregano, thyme, clove, lavender, clary sage, and arborvitae were effective against the bactiera Escherichia coli, Salmonella typhimurium, Yersinia enterocolitica, Staphylococcus aureus, Listeria monocytogenes, and Enterococcus faecalis, Bacillus cereus, Arthrobacter protophormiae, Pseudomonas fragi, and fungi Chaetomium globosum, Penicillium chrysogenum, Cladosporium cladosporoides, Alternaria alternata, and Aspergillus fumigatus.

How to use Essential Oils

 

  • Neat: Before using an essential oil, be sure to check if it needs to be diluted. Some oils can be used neat (undiluted), while others are very strong and need to be cut with a ‘carrier oil’ to dilute the oil. If your oil can be used neat, one or two drops is enough to do the trick! Examples of when you may use an oil neat: zits, blemishes, cuts, scars, burns, mosquito bite, or even as a perfume!
  • Topically: For nicks and cuts, using an antibacterial essential oil can help cleanse the wound and prevent infection.
    • Antiseptic oils include:
      • Tea tree: A very powerful oil, tea tree can establish a very strong barrier to prevent bacterial and viral invaders from entering the bloodstream.
      • Myrrh: Myrrh was used by Greek soldiers in the battlefield to disinfect wounds and stop bleeding!
      • Lavender: Lavender is a more gentle oil which is great for kids, and can be used neat (no dilution). In addition to disinfecting the wound, it is a very soothing oil which can also soothe pain, burning, or stinging sensations.
  • Diluted: Carrier oil options for your diluted oils include:
      • Olive oil
      • Coconut oil, or fractionated coconut oil
      • Jojoba oil
      • Cacao butter
      • Rosehip oil
      • Red raspberry seed oil
    • You may also use vodka or vinegar for a spray (perfume or household cleaner). Aloe vera is a great carrier for lavender to use on burns and bites!
  • Steaming: Inhaling oils can clear the lungs and invigorate the body. I like to diffuse calming oils at night and stimulating oils during the day while I work.
    • Shower: Try dropping 2-3 drops in the shower and allowing the hot water to create an intoxicating steam!
    • Diffuser: A mist diffuser uses cold water to disperse the oil for a few hours.
    • Stove: You can even add a few drops to a pot of water and allow it to simmer on the stovetop.
    • Fabric: Try dropping a relaxing oil on your pillow to help you drift off into dreamland.

Takeaway

With the overuse of antibiotics leading to a rise in drug resistant strains of bacteria, essential oils offer a natural and effective treatment. Essential oils should be considered as an effective cleaning agent in household cleaners, and as a holistic treatment for fungal, bacterial, and viral infections.

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References:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8893526

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9218354

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12678685

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31195112

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-08673-9

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5694587/#sec2title

https://www.britannica.com/topic/essential-oil/Chemical-composition

Natural Solutions for Diarrhea | Podcast #239

Diarrhea is a common sickness that deals with disruptions in your gastrointestinal system. Diarrhea is characterized by frequent, watery stools, abdominal cramping, and bloating. In most cases, diarrhea can be treated at home and it will resolve itself in a few days. You might experience Diarrhea as a result of a viral or bacterial infection, sometimes, it’s because of food poisoning. If left untreated, it can cause pain and dehydration to a patient. 

Learn more about the natural solutions for diarrhea, what to do when you have diarrhea, and look through what natural medicine can do with curing diarrhea. More info with Dr. Justin himself and Evan Brand.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani

Dr. Justin Marchegiani

In this episode, we cover:

00:20 Everything about Diarrhea

05:01 Common medications

09:29 Chronic Infections

20:25 Food and natural solutions

26:36 Essential Oils

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Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Hey guys it’s Dr. Justin Marchegiani here. Welcome back to the podcast. Evan, how are we doing today my man?

Evan Brand:
I am doing great. We’re here to talk about a glorious topic that somebody has to cover because if we don’t cover it, well then who the heck is going to get to the bottom of their gut issues.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
I know everything about diarrhea it’s there all the key things about diarrhea. What you can do? Why is it happening. Natural solutions. You really want to focus on getting to the root cause.

Evan Brand:
I had IBS for a long time, probably a decade.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Oh by the way just to kind of chime in before we dive in on the diarrhea aspect is we’re really working on upgrading the audio quality today everyone. So you’re listening on YouTube. We’ll put a little podcast link as well so you can listen to the higher grade audio give us some feedback on it, let us know what you think and if you really enjoy it, please give us some extra shares.

Evan Brand:
This should be like the ultimate studio quality based on how we’re recording it now.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yeah. So we’ve changed kind of how our recording methods. If you guys like it, let us know. We appreciate it.

Evan Brand:
So I had IBS for prolly like a decade. IBS is really a terrible stupid term because it really just means that you don’t have a clue why you’re suffering from gut issues. So, we will mention constipation just because it’s often for people to alternate where one week or one day, they may have diarrhea, and then the next day, or the next week, they may have constipation. So a lot of people do alternate like that and there’s many different causes. So our goal today is to try to break down some of these big triggers, and then talk about some of the testing options to investigate this problem, and then talk about some of the solutions, like what are the palliative things, what are the little low hanging fruits that you can do, but then what are the root cause strategies you have to implement as well.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Exactly. So one of the first things that’s happening with diarrhea is obviously motility is fast. Now the problem with that is, you’re going to you’re going to have malabsorption. It’s gonna be harder to break down protein absorb fat ionized minerals and absorb a lot of these key minerals for healthy metabolic function, thyroid function, mitochondrial function. So it’s really easy to have brain fog, fatigue, and to not feel like yourself. And especially to this inflammation of your body sucking out a lot of these minerals, pulling water into your small intestine and colon to kind of get whatever irritant is out. So then if these minerals are low, that can lead to more [inaudible] issues as well and minerals are important for healthy blood pressure. So if you’re getting dizzy, or standing up fast or having heart palpitations, or feeling anxious. These are all common side effects with diarrhea. Now we look at the long term effects of diarrhea or long term solutions or I should say solution slash causes, because they’re connected, are going to be chronic infections; parasites bacterial overgrowth H Pylori. We’re going to see a combination of low enzymes, low hydrochloric acid, levels and obviously inflammation in the gut. And the more inflamed the gut is the more things will be shuffled through the intestinal tract at a faster rate making it harder to absorb a lot of these nutrients. And when these nutrients aren’t absorbed, it creates this downward spiral because we need these nutrients for healthy metabolism, healthy adrenal, healthy thyroid right, selenium, magnesium zinc for healthy thyroid, magnesium for healthy mitochondria.  Well now we start to have more and more nutrient deficiencies which continue to make these problems worse and worse and worse every single week. So it’s really this downward spiral and we have our chronic issues like I mentioned. And then we have acute issues, food issues, could be like food poisoning, like an E.Coli or salmonella, or [inaudible] chemical Baxter type of infection that causes an acute diarrhea, could be a gluten sensitivity issue as well. We’re gonna expose to a food allergen like dairy or gluten casein etc. and that’s creating inflammation that’s causing your intestinal tract to not be happy and to move things out faster. Also bacterial overgrowth typically with hydrogen gas, dominance regarding SIBO, the hydrogen gas can really affect motility and typically cause things to move along faster.

Evan Brand:
Yep. All great points. In my case I had H Pylori. So we know that was messing up all my acid production which is why I wasn’t digesting my food very well, once I got rid of the H pylori, then I retested the stool and that’s where I showed up with those parasites like crypto and giardia. And then once I got rid of those, finally I was able to get the diarrhea under control, and so I told the story to you many times on different podcasts we’ve done together where when I was in college I would have to figure out where the bathroom was, and that was just part of my lifestyle. I just thought OK, just find the bathroom and you’ll be fine. And many people they take the Pepto-Bismol or the Ammonium AD or whatever other type of prescription or over-the-counter anti diarrheal medication, and they just live with it. They keep it in their purse, they keep it in their backpack, and they just assume I just need this medication. And we always want to point out diarrhea is not a deficiency of anti diarrheal medication. There is something going on. So don’t just keep putting duct tape over the check engine light. You have to address why your check engine light is on in the first place.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
What are the most common antiviral medications. We have things like Pepto-Bismol, all right. These are gonna be anti diarrhea, Maalox would be another big one, those are the big kind of like over-the-counter types. Now one of the things that we’ll use in natural medicine which I think is great, is if we have some kind of toxin or irritant. The easiest way to help decrease that effect on the motility is bind it up. So we’ll use activated charcoal or bentonite clay taken with that food or questionable food were taken while motility is on the faster side and that can really help slow things up.

Evan Brand:
I’ve got my favorite one right here on my desk. Toxins Bind from Beyond Balance. You can only get it through practitioners but this is a game changer for me, one, the detox mode. Two, it’s very helpful to slow things down just a little bit. It’s not going to get you to a point where you’re constipated. You know some people can’t get constipated on binders if we are doing some type of detox protocol, but it’s very easy to mitigate that. Just throw in some extra magnesium and vitamin C and usually it’s no problem at all. It’s kind of like a gas pedal. You know some people they’re so into diarrhea territory they need full those binders multiple times a day to slow them down enough to have normal stools. But if you’re on the other side where you may tend towards one loose stool here or there, and then you get slowed down too much, then just throw in the extra vitamin C magnesium and you’ll be in the sweet spot.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Exactly so the big thing is we’ll throw in the binders like we talked about. Also dehydration is big. So we may add an extra minerals whether it’s Redmon’s Real Salt you know a full teaspoon with water shoot it down, a lot of conventional people are gonna go in the direction of PD light, which is going to have a lot of junky dyes and high fructose corn syrup and not the highest quality minerals so we want more natural minerals support. So Redmond’s real salt is a great way of doing that. You can also sip apple cider vinegar is excellent. Get some really good mineral support you can sip sauerkraut juice is excellent. There’s also some really good electrolyte formulas that are kind of blended together don’t have all the extra dyes and flavors and sugar in there. So those are good options as well. And if we need some extra glucose or extra carbohydrate we’ll just throw in some coconut water. Coconut water is your natural electrolyte formula with glucose or with sugar in there because it got a little bit of coconut sugar, but it’s not going to be on the natural side and it won’t have all fructose corn syrup in there that’s kind of going to be extracted from corn, right. So you’ll get some extra potassium from the coconut water and then we can always throw in some extra Redman’s real salt or even some new salt which is potassium chloride based salt so we can get our potassium and we can up our magnesium, and our sodium, and our chloride, and our magnesium ,and our sulfates. These are great ways we can get our minerals up. Also extra Pellegrino or Topo Chico good quality mineral water. On top of that will be really helpful for rehydration and getting your electrolytes.

Evan Brand:
When my tummy is upset. I’ll go for ginger tea. I’ll do a double bag a ginger tea, or even mix one bag of chamomile with one bag of ginger and then just throw in like a half or a quarter teaspoon of raw honey. And that’s pretty good too. You know some argue there’s a lot of different minerals and trace nutrients and stuff in honey. I don’t really use honey as a source of nutrition though, I just use it to taste good.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yes I think that’s great. Now ginger is excellent as well. Typically ginger has some natural prokinetic effects to it. So it really helps with slow motility, but let’s not forget diarrhea tends to have an inflammatory component to it. So a lot of these natural prokinetics that help with slower motility. Well they also have anti inflammatory qualities to them. So if we can decrease inflammation in the intestinal tract, that can really help modulate motility. It’s too fast and kind of bring it back down.

Evan Brand:
Yeah. Now, speaking of inflammation, it is possible that your diarrhea situation is more than just an irritable bowel situation that could be triggered by parasites H Pylori, bacterial overgrowth Candida. It could be an inflammatory bowel disease or some type of autoimmune disease like Crohn’s or also Diff Colitis. So we don’t want to discount the fact that your situation could be more serious. So, we don’t want you to listen to this podcast and just go drink ginger tea and think everything’s gonna be OK. You really need to work with a practitioner who can help you get the proper testing done to make sure it’s not something more serious, especially if you’ve been suffering with chronic diarrhea.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
One hundred percent. So we have these chronic infections that need to be looked at. So you really want to hook up with a good functional medicine doctor that can help you look at what potential infections or gut stressors could be there. And then let’s not affect this is really important. Let’s not forget the emotional stress. So we know emotional stress is going to interplay with the adrenals, and the adrenals is are part of that stress handling sympathetic nervous system. So we have the bridge to the parasympathetic which is the relaxation. Calm down, that’s the break. That’s the brake on the car to kind of slow things down, and then we have the gas pedal which is go go go go go, and the bridge from the parasympathetic, the brake, to the gas pedal, go go go. The sympathetic are the adrenal. And so when we’re activating those adrenals and we’re heading that fight or flight response, one of the big things that’s going to happen is motility tends to go faster or it can go faster because digestion disrupted. So when we have poor digestion because the sympathetic nervous system’s up, we have less enzymes, we have less acid. We’re going to have less breakdown of these food. So I said that things can go faster. They can also go slower too. When we have poor digestion, things can go fast or they can go slow. So the same root cause may be in effect though. That’s the kind of hard thing is, you could have someone can have diarrhea. The other person could have constipation and it could be similar root causes regarding adrenal and stress and in digestive aspects. You really have to look at everything from a root cause lens, and we connect the hormone component to it as well. And then let’s not forget, thyroid, one of the main symptoms of low thyroid can be low motility. Because thyroid hormone has a natural migrating motor complex stimulating effect, meaning it helps stimulate those wave like contractions. That’s the migrating motor complex which helps move food through. Now, with diarrhea, thyroid typically may not be as much of an issue but definitely with constipation, it could be. So slow motility low thyroid increase adrenal stress, increased cortisol, increased sympathetic nervous system. We could very well have diarrhea partly because of that and who knows what kind of stressors in the gut are affecting it. Food could stress it out. Infections could stress it out. It’s a two lane highway of communication going from, you know, the adrenal to the gut. It’s not just a one way, it’s two way; stress in the gut can cause adrenal stress, stress in the adrenal it can cause gut stress and vice versa.

Evan Brand:
Yeah. Think about a time. Yeah it totally does. Think about a time where you’re really scared. You know you had to slam on your brakes in the car, or you had a big business meeting, and you’re worried, you’ve got to sit down with the boss, man. You get scared and people get that nervous tummy, makes perfect sense. I think people forget about how much stress could play a role in their gut symptoms.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
If you look at kiddos, right kiddos, they don’t even have the ability to manage their urine or bowels, it’s because at their age they don’t have the parasympathetic nervous system kind of built in yet, so they’re more sympathetic dominant. Cause sympathetic stress causes bowel or urinary release. And think about it, right, we all have had that story of someone who literally whether they wet their pants because they were so scared. Right. Why is that. Because the sympathetic nervous system can cause a release of the bladder or even the intestines. We see it more with the bladder because it’s more readily available. It’s easier to do. So we’ll see a lot with that level of stress can affect the bowels and affect the urinary tract.

Evan Brand:
Well I’ve read stories of different people in the military where they are in an active shooter situation or they’re in a hostage situation that people poop their pants. You know it happens. It’s not fun but it happens. So that just goes to show what the adrenal stress and the hormone peace can do to your gut. Now you mentioned medications, so we didn’t talk about drugs that people are taking that could be messing them up though. So what about like acid blocking medications? I would suspect that acid blockers are going to make the situation worse. And if you’re trying to control your reflux situation, but now you’re lowering your stomach acid, now you’ve got all this undigested food, you’re going to be much more likely to have diarrhea type issues if you’re on acid blockers.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
100 percent so acid blockers make everything worse. Let’s say it was an acid issue, and you’re coming down the acid levels in your intestines, well a lot of times that’s not an excess acid issue. Usually it’s the guts lining is worn down so thin it just can’t handle much acid at all. It’s kind of like you want a great massage because you’re back some pain but that back when you have a sunburn at the same time so that back massage causes pain even though it’s really not, it’s just you’re in hypersensitive mode, right. The same thing with your gut when you when that gut lining, when that gastric ecosystem that you just can’t handle much, so you may actually need more, but your tolerance is too low, and the number two, if you don’t have enough acid or esophageal sphincter which is basically the connection between the stomach and the esophagus can stay open and we don’t have enough acidity. So then the food sits it rots acid after the fact forms from the rotting of that food, then it can raise up through that open esophagus sphincter, and start burning that lower part of the esophagus.

Evan Brand:
Let’s talk about kids for a minute. We do see quite a lot of kids, you know infants, toddlers, you know, five six seven eight nine teenagers, that are dealing with gut issues of different types. So if we start at really really young kids, you know, like breastfeeding age and those kids have diarrhea, most of the time we’re going to blame that on mom, probably having gluten or dairy or some other food allergy. And the diet now, so my daughter Summer, and when she was about maybe one and a half, we got her first stool tests done and that’s where she actually showed up with H Pylori plus a virulence factor. And she had either one or two parasites. I want to say she had a blast though and inaudible] amoeba but I can’t remember without looking at her labs. And so she had multiple factors. You know mom’s diet was clean, so we knew it wasn’t that, but you know she had just act like her stomach hurt, you could just tell she was in pain. And so, we gave her some liquid antimicrobials and we got rid of it. We retested the stool the H Pylori was successfully gone, and then she had some bacterial overgrowth and Candida. So we did another round of antimicrobials and then finally her guts and in a good place now. So it’s hard with kids because sometimes if they’re too young, they can’t express to you what’s going on, but you know by the time they’re age three four or five, hopefully they can tell you, Hey, my tummy hurts and if the kids [inaudible] then you know, hopefully paleo template and they’re still having issues, then you can get testing done on kids. It’s easy, stool and urine can provide a lot of information.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
One hundred percent. My son Aiden had significant diarrhea a few weeks back, significant, I think it was a food issue. So one of the first things we did is we kind of gave them some extra anti inflammatory support, we have some ginger in a liquid form to kind of calm his tummy. We added some extra binders and activated charcoal to bind things up, and then I just kind of looking at him I could tell, though based on how everything came about. There was definitely a food poisoning episode to it. So I got him on some specific liquid anti-microbial herbs and within twenty four hours his bowels were solid.

Evan Brand:
That’s great.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Two days of like pure liquid. And anyone that has infants that we’re diapers, is not fun to clean up. So I was able to get that stabilized within 24 hours, made a huge difference and he’s on a regimen right now, more than likely he got some kind of infection. So we have him on an antimicrobial regimen, that’s liquid, because it’s easier for kiddos to get the liquid down, and then we have months and probiotics as well. Now that’s one other thing, probiotics can have some really good anti inflammatory benefit. So with diarrhea, we may even add in probiotics while we’re doing the herbs, just because they can really help kind of calm the gut down which may provide some relief with the diarrhea. And that’s important because I need to make sure we’re absorbing those nutrients, so we can get diarrhea. Like you know, compressed or dialed in. Then that’s going to help nutrition absorb a lot better. And then we used all the antimicrobials as well, that made a huge huge difference. But one other thing I want to highlight, because you were talking about acid blockers in the spiral of negative consequences that can happen with that, well same with antibiotics, because antibiotics are commonly prescribed for diarrhea as well. What if it’s not a bacterial issue? What if it’s a parasite? What if it’s a yeast overgrowth? What if it’s a gluten sensitivity reaction? Well guess what? Now you just knocked out a whole bunch of beneficial bacteria, maybe you create more inflammation. We know antibiotics can create mitochondrial stress. So it’s not good taking unless you know it’s an a help. Right? So then you could create a whole bunch more issues with the guts. Now we have this rebound overgrowth occurring and now we may have more issues that intensify over time because of that antibiotic. So we really got to be careful if we’re going to just throw medications at things kind of willy nilly.

Evan Brand:
Well said. Well, take someone who has chronic fatigue. You mentioned the mitochondrial damage. We know that’s associated with antibiotic use. So you’ve got someone that’s tired maybe because they’ve just been pooping so much, they’re exhausted from all the mineral depletion, we talked about the adrenal stress. You take that chronically fatigued person, you throw antibiotics in the system, they’re going to become more tired. So now they’re not even motivated enough to get up and cook the healthy nutritious foods they need to heal their gut. So I love that you brought that up because my next thing I was going to say was, well let’s go down the rabbit hole and change that. Let’s turn the tables a little bit. Let’s take my daughter. Let’s take your son and let’s put him through the conventional medical rabbit hole. What would have happened. We would have taken your son to the pediatrician or my daughter to the pediatrician and they would have said, Oh they’ve got diarrhea. Well, probably a bacterial issue. Let’s give them a round of antibiotics. There’s going to be a huge rebounding of Candida possibly skin issues that would happen.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
What if there was a parasite?

Evan Brand:
Exactly. It wouldn’t it worked.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yeah. What if my son got exposed to some gluten. No. Well no. It’s not going to fix that.

Evan Brand:
And most of the time when people come to us they’ve already been through that route. You know I’ve had many people that have been to their pediatricians with their children’s health issues and they’ve been disappointed at the level of care they’ve received. So they come to somebody like you or I. And we say look we really don’t want to use antibiotics in this case, number one because we have the clinical data. We’ve run the genetics full testing, we’ve run the urinary organic acids, we can tell you with confidence on the piece of paper, look, we’ve got this parasite, this bacteria, and we’ve got Candida overgrowth. So, yes you could use antibiotics for those bacteria but our success rate is so high using herbs. Why throw in the big guns if we can use things like olive leaf and Berberine and clove and other herbs that will still do the same antimicrobial benefit without killing mitochondria without killing good guys. There’s just a better way to do it and that is the way to do it.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Exactly. We also may make changes with foods, we may cut out from fermentable carbohydrates, if there’s bacterial stop being fed by it. We may lean more on a gaps or a kind of a soup or stew or kind of bone broth type of template where foods are more in a liquid form to make everything easier to digest. And also we’re going to add an extra anti inflammatory [inaudible], aloe, slippery elm of course, Evan mentioned ginger already. These are excellent things to help kind of reduce inflammation maybe even turmeric or curcumin. Conventional medicine typically won’t touch that because, what are their anti inflammatory medications? Well they’re Prednisone, maybe [inaudible] right. These non-state real anti inflammatory is which actually can rip up the gut lining more and create more problems. So a lot of times these medications won’t be recommended because they may create more issues on the intestinal side. You know the major side effect of [inaudible] is alterations that kill 20000 thousand people a year, according to a New England Journal of Medicine. So they tend to not to to reach for many of these anti inflammatory is because they tend to cause more problems than not. But in natural medicine world, we have a lot more anti inflammatory that are natural and they aren’t going to have those side effects and can be added into your diet and really have beneficial effects.

Evan Brand:
Yeah. It’s crazy how quickly you could get down the rabbit hole and not end up any healthier than when you went into a hospital or immediate care center. You know, when we talk about antibiotics, we’re assuming that if you did have a bacterial infection, we’re assuming that that is a non antibiotic resistant strain. But what if you’ve got C. Difficile for example, which kills so many people you know diarrhea could be C. Diff.  C. Diff is something that we see as an infection. Yep. And C. Diff has become very very resistant to antibiotics to where these gastroenterologists are recommending stronger and stronger drugs sometimes, even resorting to I.V. antibiotics to kill the Clostridium. I’ve never had an issue getting rid of Clostridium using herbs. I’ve seen it countless times I know you have to. It disappears with the antimicrobials that are natural because see, herbs are not a single mechanism, right, you can’t just say well there’s this one alkaloid or this one polyphenol it doesn’t work like that in nature. There’s so many things that we don’t even fully understand what’s in there. We just know hey Berberine has all this other stuff that comes with it and the package deal gets rid of C. Diff where antibiotics just may not.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Exactly. That’s why we’ll add in specific Sacramice  or bifida or lactobacillus species to really calm things down. My big kind of warning for everyone listening is if you have an excess of blood in the stool, it’s not stabilized or the electrolytes in the minerals dropped so low lower, so fast that we’re dizzy, light headed we may need to go to an E.R. to get an I.V. and they kind of get things stabilized while you get things on track. Same with the blood and the stool. So just keep an eye. Things are really intense. And symptoms are ratcheting up fast and you can’t get fluid in, you can’t get electrolytes in, you can’t get things stabilized. Conventional medicine may need to be used to at least get things stable, and that’s going to be on the extreme side. We’d like to at least draw a line for people listening so they aren’t incredibly dogmatic and only go the natural route for the majority of people that would probably be fine. But if you’re in that camp where you can’t stabilize, an I.V. with electrolytes will be helpful. If excessive blood in the stool, then we may have to look at getting that at least stabilized in the meantime while we come back to this we should never ignore it. We should always come back. We may need some level of stabilization first.

Evan Brand:
Yeah well said that happened to my grandmother she had started. I think it was privately to a medication she had started, this was a couple of years ago where she ended up vomiting and having diarrhea. So she was losing liquids out of both ends.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yes.

Evan Brand:
She couldn’t keep any water down. Her blood pressure was starting to get messed up. She’s already dealing with atrial fibrillation. So she had some heart issues going on as well. I just told her, look, this is a situation where you just got to go. So she went to the E.R. they gave her fluids. Unfortunately, they put her on antibiotics. So then she ended up having more issues with the antibiotics but as soon as I got her back home I was able to pump her full of 50 to 100 billion couple times a day of probiotics and then within about three days, one overnight, but within about three days, we got her bowels normalized again. So she was in a situation where you know especially at her age, she could have gotten really big trouble if she didn’t go to the hospital.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Same thing happened with my son. We were just able to get enough activated charcoal to slow the motility up and all of his drinks had extra electrolytes, extra minerals, extra nutrients, in the drinks. And then we just kept everything really cooked and really easy and on the lower FOB map side as well, and that kind of helped stabilize things, and then getting some of antimicrobials and really help too.

Evan Brand:
Yeah I mean if you have vomiting going on with diarrhea at the same time, one things that our pediatrician did say that was helpful early on in my daughter’s life was, I think she was around six months old. She got, we think it was like a rotavirus or some other type of virus maybe a no real virus. You know vomiting and diarrhea, so coming out of both ends and in the pediatrician we spoke with she’s supposedly more functional. However she still recommends a lot of antibiotics and things we don’t agree with. But, she said, give it two to four hours after vomiting before you try to throw anything and even breastmilk, even water, just let the gut rest. And I thought you know what. That’s actually a pretty good idea because sometimes, if it’s diarrhea and vomiting you get in a rush to throw stuff back in. But if the gut is so irritated sometimes you may just need to just fast for a couple hours and don’t do anything yet. Obviously, there’s a podcast, we’re not consulting with you also you see how there’s so many huge variations of this, and there’s such a spectrum of what may need to be done.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yeah. How I would handle that is I would just come in there I’d let it rest for a bit. I’d add in some bone broth, some ginger tea, everything very liquid, bone broths, maybe some collagen and amino acids keep it very simple, very gentle, start working in a little bit of probiotics in there as well, start working in a little bit of binders and just kind of get your bowels stabilized, and if we can’t, big deal we just go get an I.V. on board well that buys us a little bit more time. We don’t have to worry about any electrolyte or hyponatremia issues from losing too much fluids.

Evan Brand:
Essential oils or something we should mention, some people get crazy with essential oils, like they’ll say that all essential oils are for everything, or essential oils cure this and cure that. You know I’m not going to go there, all I’m going to say is that essential oils can be helpful. There are some clinical double blind randomized placebo controlled studies of patients with irritable bowel syndrome and by using peppermint oil.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Peppermint’s great.

Evan Brand:
They have significant improvements in quality of life-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
That’s fine.

Evan Brand:
So coconut oil, avocado oil, put a little bit of carrier oil, just put a couple of drops of peppermint oil, rub it onto your tummy, that can be a game changer. Now I’ve seen people like putting like, lemon essential oil and stuff in their water. I just I don’t personally ingest essential oils, I just use them topically.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yeah. That can be helpful though. The dilimening in those citrus oils or essential oils can definitely help with the diarrhea. So there is the component limiting in the citrus or orange or lime or lemon that does have some natural antiviral qualities, but again, when it’s more subtle that works, some of the herbs that we’re doing, the amount that we’re giving, acutely is so high. And if you were to take that, let’s just say an essential oil liquid form, you’d be shooting down like half the bottle a day and some of these oils can be very abrasive. That’s where it’s nice to have it in a capsule form or a liquid form that’s designed to allow it to get down smoothly without all the taste problems.

Evan Brand:
Yeah that’s where I get concerned. It’s like, OK, grapefruit seed essential oil, maybe that’s a good thing but lowered. I don’t want that going down my esophagus really.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yeah. So it me essential oils can be great when it’s gentle stuff, can be really great for kiddos too, when they can’t swallow just being able to get a couple of drops in them. It can be very soothing on their tummy but when it gets more acute, that’s what we’ve got to pull out the big guns.

Evan Brand:
Yeah. So fever, that was another situation we forgot to mention, and we talked about the bleeding. We talked about the vomiting situation that can make things more tricky complicated. And then also fever but fever may be the body’s natural response too. So like this immediate idea to suppress a fever may not be wise either. I think it’s just a case by case basis. That’s why a conversation like this gets kind of hard.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Yeah in general my perspective on fevers, if it’s below a hundred and five degrees, we don’t worry about it. Fevers for the most part are always going to be fine as long as there’s not head trauma, if there’s head trauma in the hypothalamus maybe has an inability to regulate temperature then we get a little bit concerned. So head trauma from a car accident, or a fall, and then a fever ensuing afterwards may have to be a little more careful of that. But if there’s no head trauma involved, then we have a fever, then we’re just going to work on supporting the immune system because that’s the body raising the temperature to kill off Mesophilic bacteria. Medium temperature bacteria that will die around 100 hundred and one hundred and two. So it may go up a little bit, that’s below 1 0 5 you’re more than likely fine, conventional medicine we’ll typically recommend Tylenol way sooner which in my opinion is going to decrease glutathione. Actually not my opinion. That’s according to research. It will decrease with glutathione levels, and it will decrease your body’s ability to kill that bacteria. So my opinion is hundred and five or below you’re probably fine as long as there’s no head trauma. Either way please see your conventional MD regarding that. Just to be honest.

Evan Brand:
Yeah. Well said CBD oil just give a brief mention to it. You know I think people overstate the benefits of CBD oil just like they do with essential oils, like you can, oh my left pinky hurt, oh! CBD oil. You know so people get a little carried away with it however I used it for my daughter, I use it for myself, CBD oil does have benefits, now is it going to be as helpful as an  aloe extract, the raw ginger extract, or berberines or Pau de Arco or olive. Probably not, really. I mean I think it’s great and it can modify things, but I just don’t think it’s necessarily root cause as much as some of the other things we talked about.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
I a hundred percent. So that was an excellent podcast. He really went in deep on the clinical side. I hope everyone is valuing this information. If you do, give us the thumbs up, give us a share, and let us know your comments below, what you liked about this article, and what future topics you would like us to chat about. And if you want to dive in deeper, if you feel like this article resonates with you or a friend or family member, head over to EvanBrand.com to schedule a consult with Evan, or JustInHealth.com to schedule a consult with myself. We’ll put links down below. We work with patients virtually all over the world and we’d love to help you out if you’re ready for that next up.

Evan Brand:
Sounds good. Well great conversation I hope this helps people and we’ll be back next week.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Excellent. Hey man it was great chatting with you. We’ll talk soon.

Evan Brand:
You too. Take care.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani:
Take care. Bye.

Evan Brand:
Bye.


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The Essential Oil Hormone Solution | Podcast #220

There are a lot of great practitioners out there who will help navigate that journey for you, but you’re making the best decisions and there is ownership of you. You are the “CEO” of your health.

In today’s podcast, be amazed as Dr. J interviews his lovely guest, Dr. Mariza Snyder, a functional practitioner and a renowned author of 7 books, the most recent being about one of her absolute favorite subjects – essential oils! Listen and learn about the importance of self-awareness, self-care, and other important recommendations for one to start implementing. Stay tuned for more and don’t forget to share!

Dr. Mariza Snyder

Dr. Mariza Snyder

In this episode, we cover:

04:53    The Luteal Phase

07:14    Estrogen-Dominance

10:29    Adrenals

13:26    Self-Healing Awareness

14:41    Plant-Based Medicine

18:13    Nutritional Compounds

24:11    Gut

25:49    Essential Oil-Wise to Support Luteal Phase

27:27    Perfume Alternatives

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Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hey there, it’s Dr. Justin Marchegiani. Welcome back to the podcast. We have Dr. Mariza Snyder on the show today. Dr. Snyder is a hormone expert and essential oil expert which is great because essential oils can be really helpful and they can really help with the stress response. So we’re gonna dive in to the hormones, we’re gonna dive in to some things that you can do right now to help kinda push your hormones back in the balance. Dr. Mariza, welcome to the podcast, how you doin’?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Thank you so much for having me. I am great. So happy to be here.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Excellent. Very cool. So, I’m just curious, I was talking to you kinda pre to show. When I was uh, in doctorate school, you are actually right on the way out just a co- couple of quarters before me, so I actually remember you, we were kinda reminisce in a bit. And I wanted to- to- kinda, how did you make your exit on the doctorate chiropractic side into the functional medicine hormone side? What was that journey like for you?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. Well, there even reason why I pivoted the way that I did. So, 4, 15 years when I was little girl, 7 years old, I uhm- I basically had some pretty crazy head traumas, neck traumas, and that led to chronic migraine pain. And I was told, I can’t tell you how many times I was told I was gonna live with this pain, and I believed it for so long.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Well, fast forward, I, you know, growing up, I struggled, I missed- I missed slumber parties, I miss school, I missed all the fun things. I remembered as a kid, just thinking, “Man, I missed out so much on life” because I was in pain all the time like, these migraines would light me up for days on end. Just in a dark room with a cold cloth over my head, just praying to go to sleep. So, 24, I- I am a biochemist at elaborate floors of more national laboratory.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, wow, yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And uhm- there was uh- a- a woman there who was- who- was like, “listen, we…”, uh “…I have a doctor who could probably get you out. And uhm, they get you from your- get well from your migraine”. I’ll be honest with you, at that point, it been 15 years, and I did not believe any of it. I was like, “I don’t know. This is I’m- this is my lot in life, missed thing, I’m- I’m stuck with this. I got my drive this- I’m gonna beat this sucker every single day or every other day. I’m good”. You know, “I’m gonna go and become medical doctor, I’m gonna go prescribe meds, just like I’m taking right now” [chuckles].

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: It- it’s just- it made no sense whatsoever, but when you don’t know that there’s a different paradigm, you just kinda follow along in suit. Uhm, because the practitioner was uhm- on the way home, I went and so- sought out care, and it was interesting, it was more of a functional practice of- that uh- and I didn’t realized what a functional practice was. I didn’t even know anything like this existed. I did have chiropractic growi- growing up and, I- unfortunately they weren’t able to clear out those migraines, but this practice had. Acupuncture, upper cervical, nutrition-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -the whole gamut of things, and after 90 days, after care, I was migraine free, and it blow my mind. So, that opened up the idea of- of this idea of healing that I’d never even thought of before. Literally switched past like that [snaps finger].This is over a summer. I was heading out to- to medical school, switched past over to-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -chiropractic school, this was the thing. Uhm, and, throughout that process, I was still educating and learning and thinking myself like how- how does the body have the ability to heal. And nutrition became a really big part of my life. So once I got into practice, most of women I was treating uhm- we’re dealing with hormone issues, I was also dealing with hormone issues, ’cause- ’cause why not have another health issue at the-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: after- after this other one.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And I realized that although, uhm, chiropractic could be supportive to some of the things that it was really nutrition and lifestyle and really getting the core root of what was going on with them that was gonna move the needle. So, that became a big part of the practice.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s cool. I remember- if I remember correctly, you were an upper cervical chiro expert, right?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I was because of the migraines. Yeah?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. And then I’m just curious, how far, like, if we just kinda quantify as a percentage, how far did the upper cervical get you versus the other half where you were incorporating more natural and- and nutritional and supplemental techniques?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. Well- if, you know, it was definitely case by case. Some people like myself-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -had [crosstalk]. And uhm- and it was uh-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: [Clears throat]

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -things were wrong. There was  misalignments, there were problems, up at c122. So, but then there were other instances where a lot of of women that I was treating had migraine pain because of the-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hormones?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yes. Hormones. Luteal phase-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Inflammation…

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -just drop of progesterone-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -and estrogen, and that was more of a lifestyle, nutritional, supplementation aspects. So, I would say the pain on a person, it they was hormone-driven, uhm, maybe 25%, uh 20% chiropractic, but really, I wasn’t making the changes until we stepped in to the nutrition and supplements and lifestyle.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay, got it. So, you’re kind of- it- the more on the physical stressor sides, the chiropractic so to help more of the alignment and- and the- the nervous system communication on the hormone side, we gotta make changes above and beyond. That totally makes sense. Now, you kinda went to an area that I love. You talked about the luteal phase. Can we just kinda- walk the average listener through what a typical cycle looks like. Follicular, lutial, and- and can you describe that physiology 101 for the listeners?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Sure thing. So, if you’re still having a menstrual cycle, right? Which happens between like, I don’t know, ages 11 to 13 or so, all the way until where, well, until menopause. And menopause is defined as the disease of a menstrual cycle for about a year.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: It’s usually when- unusually the lle- the- the- the roller coaster where we’re really feeling it, is in perimenopause, right? That’s when things really began to change. Well, basically- in the follicular phase, we’ve got the increase of estrogen levels, right? That kind of peaks at ovulation and then-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -starts to dip and go down. At that point in the luteal phase, you step into luteal phase, our progesterone levels begin to go up. Also, in the follicular phase, we got testosterone levels goin’ up too-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -naturally, but then everything starts to drop towards the end of luteal phase.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And the pin on how fast those hormones are plummeting, really, dicta- reay kind of dictates P- PMS, right? The- the- that pre-menstrual cycle-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -is removing out of that. And so what I find that with women, if indeed we have a really sharp decline, or maybe they didn’t even necessarily have a big increase in progesterone to begin with, we’re gonna see things like migraines, we’re gonna see things like bloating, uhm, mood swings, a lot of those symptoms that we see around PMS. So that’s basically the physiology. And the only reason why we even get an increase in progesterone is if we actually ovulate. And-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -for some women, sometimes that isn’t even the case as well. So it’s really important to kind of- to look at all those things, to run tests. My favorite tests for looking in hormones is the DUTCH test.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I usually recommend it during the luteal phase.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay, cool. So, you run ’em like a DUTCH Complete like arr- around day 19 to 22-ish?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Things that like.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Kind of get that peak? And then do you run the- the month-long panels at all?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I- I have not in the past.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: But, I know how important those can be. Yes. And I usually- when I was testing, it was ever- I would do- I would test every quarter.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean I’ll typically run the month-long one, if there was more of a fertility case, but then, uhm- I’ll do a lot of a- you know, the snapshot in that- in that peak of a luteal phase, and I can’t tell you, I think uhm, you said it just right. I see so many women these days that are coming in with either mass- massive luteal phase defects where that luteal phase is just shortened or that progesterone’s just dropped out significantly, you know? Instead of 15 to 20 or so on that DUTCH test, they’re- they’re less than 5, even- and that’s really concerning. And then, that can approach these women into uh- maybe a- an estrogen-dominant situation. Can you describe what that is?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. So, estrogen- so- the- that’s really that you asked. Couple things about estrogen-dominance, we- you know, I get so many questions around this, you- you can actually have low estrogen and still be estrogen-dominant.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: So it’s really the relationship between estrogen and progesterone. And so often, given what we’re exposed to every single day, given our stress levels, so, not only lifestyle but also environmental, we still find that women tend to have more estrogen in the system than progesterone. And there are multiple factors, right? Progesterone could be stalling from our cortisol lab- you know, cortisol, the progesterone’s still. So we have- there’s a multiple facets but what we’re finding in a lot of women is that, just- just by the sheer fact of life that we’re living, estrogen’s gonna be- estradiol is gonna be higher than normal compared to progesterone. And, there’s a lot of thing that we can do about that for sure. And we can definitely get into that.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes. Yeah, very cool. And I’m even seeing a lot of women too that are at low progesterone but also low estrogen. Are you noticing that at all, too?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uh, that’s been me.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: [Laughs]

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And that’s just the hormone that just so depleted, right? Just-

Dr. Mariza Snyder: They’re so depleted. Yes. They’re absolutely depleted. And that has a lot to do with- I mean I- I find so often with women that it’s- a l- has a lot to do with the stress that that we’re living.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: You know, that’s very much like the key indicator, we just- we start burning out uhm- all of our hormones that we stopped creating the process where making them in a sufficient manner.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool. I wanna highlight what mechanism because you know, you are upper cervical chiropractic specialist and we talked about chiropractic on the headaches side, and part of that can happen is, if there’s stress and inflammation in the spine by misalignment of poor movement, that’s gonna stimulate a lot cortisol to help with the inflammation. And we know, just for the listeners, cortisol pulls from progesterone, you mentioned that. So, when we get rid of the inflammation and we help the- the alignment and brain communicate better with the spine, that can decrease that progesterone still ’cause we’re not pulling from the cortisol as much. Is that sound right?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: It does. I mean, you also have to- I always tell people, you can’t chiropractic a green smoothie your way out of chronic stress.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: ‘Cause it’s, how you perceive the environment. If you’re continuing to create an environment, you know, I was talking about women being Rushy- having Ru- Rushing Woman’s Syndrome.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: If you are raising from one thing to the next, you’re gonna constantly being in a situation, this not- not medical terms, but I call it the Clutch the Pearls syndrome.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Where you’re constantly clutching the pearl. [Chuckles]

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Exactly.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: So, if you’re constantly in that state, the- there’s gonna be no doctor that I know that there’s an- and there’s no supplement.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: There’s no green smoothies, there’s no nothing that’s really gonna-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -get our body back on track until we change the way that we are behaving at- in accordance to our environment.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally. That’s why a good functional medicine doctor, they’re gonna investigate the physical stressors. They’re gonna investigate the chemical stressors, that could be like you mentioned, the- the chronic stress state, the sleep, the poor food, the inflammatory food, the infections. The hormones maybe coming from the environment from food and pesticides, a d glyphosate, that totally make sense. And you mentioned the DUTCH testing. And that’s interesting because a lot of people I find at least more on the medical side I- I find it, they look at the hormones like the female hormones, the male hormones but, a lot of times they missed the adrenal hormone components. And what’s- what- [crosstalk]… yeah- yeah. Can you talk a little bit more about how the adrenals and why they’re so important to f- healthy female hormone function?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. So I- you know, I- you know, we necessarily see, you know, I was thinking about the- adrenals being the receivers of information. You know, they- they have a very important job, and that is to ensure, that is to listen to what the brain says, and you always talk about the Hypothalamic–pituitary–[adrenal] axis.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Right, that relationship between-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -what we’re receiving, the HDA access-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And- and that real- that information that’s related to the adrenals. And I- you know, I always talk about menopause and perimenopause being more of a stress condition than it is more of a hormone condition.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uhm because of our- if our- if our adrenals aren’t supporting that, if our- if our chronic stressors are under-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -chronic stress under control, we’re going to throw those hormones out because it’s all interconnected.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And at the end of the day, Dr. Justin and you know this more than I do, uhm, is that we are hard wired for survival.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: That- okay you had 2 jobs biologically that we’re supposed to do. 1, survive-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -and 2, pass down genes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: So, reproduce, right? So kinda new- a new baby coming on the way, right?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And then when they have babies, well then you are an evolutionary success. So, our bodies, that’s the purpose. Now, hard-wiring towards survival means that we have to give up a lot of other thing. Our digestive system, our reproductive system takes a hit. You are a great thyroid expert, you know that a thyroid definitely over compensates for what’s going on as well.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uhm, but I wouldn’t necessarily see- I mean, and yes, you can definitely create adrenal fatigue over time. But you-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -think- take the wild for the adrenals to finally-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -say, “Enough is enough!”.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -“…I cannot take this anymore”, but I find that where we really gotta focus our efforts, is right here in the limbic system.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uhm, that’s where we need to change the che- the chemical conversation. Because if that HPA access is continuing to up-regulate every single day-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Well, the adrenals are just like, “Dude, I’m just doing my job”.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: “…I just gotta- I gotta release this adrenal- this adrenaline, I gotta release this cortisol”-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -“…that’s my job, until one day, I am like, ‘I can’t do my job anymore. I can’t handle it'”. So, I would say that really, I always wanna work on the HPA access first-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -before I’d even begin to look actually at adrenal health. So, often I see that women have an up point of cortisol, maybe DHA is dysregulated, but the adrenals are still high functioning-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -still a while. Uh, so, that I usually wanna get to that root first which is I find right here.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. Very interesting. And it- it- it could be just semantics. I’ll look at the HPA access is like the person in the old horse and buggy that- that’s- that’s whipping a thyroid horse. The thyroid horse-

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: -[crosstalk] the adrenals, or the ovaries, so yeah, make sense-

Dr. Mariza Snyder: [Crosstalk]

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: …yeah, or the thyroid, or you can even go and- and-

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Or your gut, or your poor darn liver.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Our liver is just like, “I can’t pour out enough glycogen, like I…”, you know, that’s where we get diabetes. We’re getting-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: 100%. So, you’re talking about really getting the communication and these feedback loops dialed back in, can we just go into some strategies, what are things that you are doing with the patients so that people are, you know, reading your work, what are the top 3 things and- and- and if you wanna qualify them with certain situations, that’d be helpful too.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. So, you know, we’re talking about kind of that- err- I think that first of all we just talk about the unexpected uhm, unexpected solution to health and radical self healing is awareness. You know, if you are not aware that you’re putting crap into your body, it’s really difficult to make those changes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: If you’re not aware that you’ve had a gluten intolerance, you’re gonna probably still consume- eat glut- eat-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -gluten, right?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And if you’re not aware that you are running from one thing to the next, and that you’re living in a high stress situation, you’re just gonna keep doing what you’re doing. So, I think the first step really is self-awareness. Recognizing that something is not right. And I know-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -for me, I thought I could green smoothie my way out of chronic stress-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I also gonna get chiropractic my way out of chronic stress.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And it didn’t work. I had to figure out that I kept- I had this operating system, this feedback loop that was firing-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -whether or not I knew it or not. So-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yep.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -I think some of the most important things is 1, we definitely live in a time of isolation. I’m so grateful for this technology that you and I-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -could be talking right here.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: What would be even better is if we were right together, right?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes, totally.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: So, uh, having friends on speed dial, having people and family in your life that you can give hugs to, that you can- you can, you know, connect with, kind of boost that oxytocin level that dose that cuddle hormone-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Just being connected with people is number 1. Number 2, I love the power of plant-based medicine, so-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -I love essential oils-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I think havin’ a tool, like a little oil like this-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uhm, Bergamot and Lavender, we know-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uh-huh.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -research, time and time again, to lower serum cortisol levels, lower blood pressure and lower pulse point, but most importantly, they disrupt the cycle, from sympathetic to parasympathetic in that HPA access.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And I wanna disrupt the cycle.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I wanna get ’em to habit. So not only does the chemistry by breathing the oils in-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -go to the limbic brain- limbic brain to disrupt the cycle. But the intention of you-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Rubbing that oil, makin’ a decision like-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -“Hey, I feel…”-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Be aware.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -“…like I’m having a moment”, yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: You’re aware.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And that begins to change the cycle as well.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I’ll do thing- Yeah?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Go on. Go ahead.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Oh, I got some other things. Uhm, I do love adaptogenic herbs-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I do love Ashwagandha, I love Rhodiola, I- I love Holy Basil, any of them- all of them, it depends on that- I think you- I think testing is important to kinda understand-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -what’s going on. They do love those adaptogenic herbs, ’cause they also work on the limbic brain in the HPA access.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I also think food plays a big role. I know I did say that you can’t bring some the- you’re out of chronic stress, but man, those important nutrients-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -can really help support the body if indeed you’re just in scenario right now where you’re like, “You know what Dr. Mariza and Dr. Justin, I hear you, but right now I’m- I have to live in this emergency state for a little bit”. You know-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -life dictates that for me. So those are some of the big things that I normally recommend for people than breathing, exercise, yoga, just pausing for a moment throughout the day, just that self-awareness, and then, self-care. I think self-care is the game changer. Uhm, so those will be some of the lifestyle techniques that I- I always recommend to women to start implementing. If they’re looking to start with that root thing, that HPA access, so that we can start to change the conversation that’s happening inside of the body.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Interesting. And that, when you’re looking at people, and let’s say you’re giving essential oils that are proven to lower cortisol, right?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Are- are- are you concerned if someone already has lower cortisol, or are you gonna be using other adaptogens that may, you know, have an up and down kind of bump in the direction. So, how are you evaluating that when you’re making specific recommendations?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely, so yes. Could we have a situation where someone has significantly like at that point they de-regulate cortisol levels to so- such a degree-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -that they have- now they have lower cortisol levels? Yes. And so- and those ins- instances, I’m now looking more at and clearly, there are essential oils you can help boost cortisol, things like Rosemary, peppermint and citrus oils. So, we’re looking at a different response, and then yes, looking at different adaptogenic herbs to make those changes, that kinda- to heal the body’s- when we get you-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -to the base line, but also making those lifestyle changes as well. I mean, if in-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -deed, just grab in an oil just to have that moment for your-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -self. Uhm, I think- but that’s- it’s- that is important, it’s nice-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uh, especially they having a hard time going to sleep at night, uhm-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -but yeah, I mean, I think that the areas- I mean in- in all instances, everything is case by case.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Interesting. Is there any herb that you recommend that you feel just a really good multi-task, or where your cortisol could be low, and may give you a little pick me up, and it could also be a little bit high and you could be stressed that can kind of bring you down. Is there anything in that category?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I think Rhodiolas would your- your go tea there. I like it the most, I feel like it- it really- and not only have support mitochondrial function, which-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -I love, uhm, but it also can meet you both ways. I think more than Ashwagandha, uh, Rhodiola really is one of those adaptogenic herbs that will kinda give you what you need.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay, cool. I wanna go a little bit- I’m gonna go a little bit deeper here. Can we talk about some of the nutritional compounds that are in these herbs? Are you aware of some of the- uh you- we talked about the adaptogenic components, other nutritional compounds that we’re also getting from some of these essential oils that are helping us, as well? Kinda like vitamins and minerals or polyphenols, what’s happening there?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yes, essential oils aren’t nutrition. Uhm, some of them can definitely have antioxidant benefit especially like citrus oils-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: ‘Kay.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -but I don’t necessarily consider them nutrition-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -I’m so much as like consider them as being- uhm, it’s powerful- kind of- uh, organic chemistry, right? Uhm-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -really can work in the body and aid in the body. So, nutritionally, I usually still lend to a p- uh- plant-based nutrition or supplementation. You have someone is-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -deficient in magnesium, well, we gonna get them with some magnesium.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And B-Vitamins then activated B-Vitamins are gonna be what I recommend. But usually when I use essential oils for most importantly, is cre- is- is- is to bridge the gap for the lifestyle changes that we know we should be doing, we just aren’t doing. So, for instant, if we are going to- if we’re having a hard time going to bed every single night-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -because, we cannot shut up brain, or-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: We- we just- we just prefer to work instead. Whatever that maybe, you’re in your, you know, you’re in your phone, you’re on your iPad, or whatever that maybe, like I was just in the phone with my grandma today, one of my- I go look on both my grandmas for- for different reasons, but-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: – my uhm- my little Mexican grandma, my mother’s mother, she- I was- I called her and my grandma is like, “You know, everytime- every night before we go to bed, I just watch you. I watch you before I go to bed”, and I’m just like, “Okay”. I’m like, “Well, do you learn anything from me?”, and she’s like, “Yeah, I don’t know at all”, you know, she’s [laughs]. I think, “Grandma, you shouldn’t be on your iPad before bed”. Look [laughs]-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally, totally.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Just killing her- anyway, it’s just a really funny moment, but I think so many people like my grandma where they’re on, YouTube or they’re on- I don’t-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -even know where she’s watching, we have no idea. Uhm, but, having a ritual where you’re utilizing the essential oils, like the process of Lavender, Bergamot, Cedar Wood-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -clary sage, whatever those oils are, getting into the habit of creating this behavior, but also knowing that that chemistry is helping to really calm down the brain as well ’cause they’re all very common essential oils. So that’s kinda how I love to leverage them. How can we use them to set a- set a mo- uh, evening ritual where you’re calming down the brain and going to bed. How do you use them to go to the gym every single day? Like, I love peppermint and wild oranges, an instant energizer body. How do you use them for productivity and- and energy and alertness, and working memory. Right, a combination of peppermint-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -Rosemary and Frankincense, that’s gonna do that for you. So I think when it comes to these lifestyle changes, the self-care, if we have these oils that can punctuate how we live our life, that’s how I love to use them in aiding in the- in the daily decisions that we make, either, hopefully you start your day with great decisions that lead to more great decisions, and you’e leveraging that chemistry to just have a really great experience.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool. Is there anything you used synergistically outside of diet and lifestyle? Are there any of nutrients that you will use supplementally synergize with essential oil? Uh- I’m just kinda throw it out there, maybe like magnesium and lavender, or something like that, is there anything you seen clinically?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yeah. Uhm- gosh, that’s a good question. You know what, I- I- no, and clinic- clinically, yes, I guess maybe case by case for me-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder:-I don’t know if there’s a lot of research where we’re seeing a lot of the combinations of herb-herbs, and, I mean oils, or s- or vitamins and minerals and oils. Uhm, we- I- what I do know is that yeah, like when you’re heading to bed at night, let’s say it’s lavender, and maybe you’re using something like melatonin or maybe-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -something like uhm, eating cream rose, I think-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -that those have a really profound impact. UHm, let’s say that you are using uhm, like- like, I recommend a lo- I recommend turmeric, I recommend omegas, I recommend uhm, something for cognitive function in particular but I also know that rose mary, the chemical constituent rose mary which is 1/8 ___[22:06]-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -actually helps to increase acetylcholine in the brain. And so [crosstalk] as well. Yeah. So, pair as well as, I think important supplements that can help um, boost brain function. But just breathing in rose mary will inc- will literally increase working memory by 75%.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Awesome.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Right there in there, without taking omegas. But you should be taking omegas anyway. DHEA, so- so just- err- uh- DHEA- DH- err- gosh I’m having a- anyway, the point is this, when you’re taking-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -those omegas, you’re boosting memory and- and brain function. So, I- I guess in a sense, I’m usually telling people to be consistent with them, uhm, so that you’re getting the response that you want, but I also- I’m recommending supplements, so it feel like when it’s- we’re coming to long ___[22:47], and-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -really changing those biological processes, then we have that in place as well.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay, very cool. Alright, I got some rapid fire questions here. I’m putting you on the spot, you ready?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Alright. Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Alright, you already said 1, I- I’l answer it for you. Memory, your favorite essential oil sounded like it was Rose Mary-

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Rose Mary, yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay. Good. Anxiety, favorite?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Anxiety. Uhm, lavender, lavender and vetiver.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Good. Depression?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Depression. Oh my goodness. Uhm, frankincense, Meliss- I- I’m giving you another one. Frankincense, Melissa and citrus oils.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Excellent. Uh, pain in the joint?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Wo- I would say well, camphor is really what I’m looking for, but camphor can be found in winter green, uhm-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -I also love copaiba, uhm, for-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -it’s connection with the uhm- the- oh my gosh, the- kind of work similar to CBD so it connects with the CBD receptors it’s CBD-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -receptors in the body-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I know what you’re talking about, the- the- that endocannabinoids system, that-

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: -makes sense.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yes. exactly.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: What about brain fog?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uh, brain fog. So, I love Rosemary. Rosemary, peppermint, frankincense, same kind of concept there.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Good. How about something like an ear infection?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Uh, ear infection. So, I love Tea Tree Oil. So, Tea Tree Oil is a great antiseptic, antibacterial, but le- so my go tea for- for an ear infections is Tea Tree, Basil and lavender around the ear, diluted at around 25% dilution.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay. And is there any other uhm, chronic issues or situations that you get asked a lot, that I didn’t mentioned yet?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Gut-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh!

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -all day, everyday.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Woah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: [Laughs]

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: [Laughs]

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Right? So- uhm, so in- you know what, gut is- it’s a whole nother conversation, and it’s- it’s- it’s- it’s actually a hundred different conversations.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: So, let’s say you are having an acute gut issue, maybe you decided to eat pizza on a friday night and you knew better, and you didn’t-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -take your enzymes or, you took- you didn’t take- you took your enzymes but still it didn’t matter-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -because you have gluten and- uhm, and dairy sensitivities. Uhm, so I love a blend- it’s a blend- it’s a combination of phenyl, peppermint and ginger.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh. Yeah?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And I’m not saying that those oils are gonna cure what’s going on there, but at least it’s gonna lessen the acute symptoms.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -and that’s happening inside of the gut. And so, I just make up a du- a little roller like this, 10 to 15 drops of each.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: …over the stomach, and those 3 oils have been researched, particularly because of the herbs, the chemical constituents in those oils have been really, calm down things like bloating, constipation, diarrhea, and- and just in pain in the gut that could be happening in a small-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -and large intestine.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, and a lot of those oils too, stimulate uhm, acid production, enzyme production naturally as well. So, you’re- you’re kinda get in the body to pinch in help as well?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yeah, and peristalsis as well. So removing-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -through, yeah. And, another one, I mean, I traded migraines and headaches for so many years.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I do love, uhm, a combination of lavender, peppermint and frankincense, that’s kind of my power combo-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Again, in a roller, 10 to 15 drops of each, uh- you know, for me, it’s- it’s- if you can catch that migraine on time, it’s always cervicogenic for so many people.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -so always start back here, uhm, and just get those oils on, you know, every 30 minutes, uh, so that you- maybe- so that, that’s the option instead of uh- a non -steroidal anti-inflammatory.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s great. And you mentioned earlier, we talked about luteal phase defect and our low progesterone in that last half of the cycle, is there anything essential oil-wise that you do to help support that luteal phase, that low progesterone/ PMS, hormonal environment?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. So, there, my gotu oil I called the “Beyonce” of hormonal oils-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: [Laughs]

Dr. Mariza Snyder: [Crosstalk]. I have a blend, it’s called my superwoman blend, and it’s-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -actually what this is right here. This is what I’ve been holding up all day.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, cool.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And they’re designed for- yeah, it’s kinds luteal defect, helping to boost progesterone levels. So, the 2 gotu oils for boosting progesterone levels are gonna be, uh, clary sage and thyme. Now, thyme, not the sexiest smell in the world, but you can-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -definitely make up a blend like that-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -on the bottom of the feet or right over the ovaries. This one doesn’t have thyme, but it has geranium which can also do that. What I also love about geranium is- it helps the liver in the de- in the pa- phase 1 and phase 2  of the detoxification-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -pathway, it helps to breakdown uhm estrogen metabolites. So I do love geranium for that. So, this is 12 drops of clary sage, 10 drops of lavender, 5 drops of geranium, 5 drops-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Ah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -cedar wood, it’s a- it’s a blend; and 4 drops of lengling, and so, applyin’ it over the ovaries or right here, ’cause remember-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -oils definitely goes straight into the bloodstream.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Exactly.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Right here in the wrist, I love it on my neck as well, uhm, and just a couple times a day, uhm, it’s also great for mood support and it’s great for cravings and energy. So, it’s kind of a multi-faceted essential oil, but I have women using it for period, their periods and PMS all the time, all over the country and all over the world, and with great success. So I love this one.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool. Very cool.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Now, one of my biggest pet peeves, just ’cause this could be a hormonal stressor as well, and it just drives me crazy, is when people have- when guys either have like a strong, uhm, cologne, or womens have a s- have a strong perfume on, what can be an essential oil alternative, you know, for- for a woman or for man, that can kinda still give ’em that- that smell that they want but it wouldn’t be non-toxic and drive people crazy?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Oh, silly. I have a lot of perfume blends. If I, you know- it depends on the person. The-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -Superwoman blend for women, a lot of women wear as perfume-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Great.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -’cause it smells great, and who doesn’t want side-benefits, right?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes. Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: That’s what I love. But with guys- so, you think about most colognes, but ___[28:04] is vetiver, and-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Vetiver is a powerful neurological essential oil.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And fortunately, you’re getting a synthetic virginning cologne, and so- uh- you know, uh- vetiver, citruses, myrrh’s, frankincense, sandalwoods, those are all oils that are used in colognes. I don’t have a very specific male cologne recipe  in my ha- in my head right now, but I- there’s a lot of them out there.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And a lot of guys use them. My husband made up his own thing-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -I have no idea what’s in that blend. But he does his thing, and then for me, I’m obsessed-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -with jasmine and rose. So, I wear a combination of jasmine and rose. Jasmine, what’s- what’s really interesting, is that jasmine’s been researched to help women overcome postmortem depression. Uhm, it’s also a libido booster-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay, cool.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -and then rose is just a really powerful, beautiful essential oil so, I- that combo is just so beautiful to me, my husband loves it. Jasmine’s intoxicating. And so, a lot of women really grabbed a taste towards jasmine, yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool. Now-

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yes.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: -do you manufacture your own essential oils or do you have certain lines out there that you like or you think are really high quality?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I think- you know, I think when it comes to the “I do not manufacture”-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -oh my goodness, the- the- the- the amount of effort and time and research that goes-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -into the oils is just- just- profound. Uhm, I- when I always is when you’re researching the company, and I do have a company that I prefer, but make sure that that company, they- they tell you where they’re sourcing their oils. Where are these oils coming from?

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hmm.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Each and everyone of those oils that I mentioned a minute ago, and that superwoman blend, come from a different country-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -all over the world. And, different, very small batch growers are growing those in- in a very, you know, in an organi type of setting. Then, once those oils are produced and harvest in a sustainable way, I wanna know how they’re tested. Do they use gas chromatography, are they using spectroscopy, are they using chirality testing, are they using microbial testing, how are they testing these oils, and, as third party uh- laboratory should be testing the oils to really guarantee their efficacy, and if it’s a really great company, they will be a lot number on that label, where you can pull up the testing of that batch. So-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, very cool.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -that’s what I’m looking for when I’m looking for oils. Because if you’re trying to use these re- ther- therapy to benefit, well then you just don’t wanna put crap on your body.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Got it. Is there any s- is there any specific essential oil companies that you know of that- that meet those standards you just mentioned?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yes, there are couple. My gotu favorite is Doterra. I’m a big fan of-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Okay, Doterra, cool.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -I’m a Doterra girl.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Cool.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: And uhm, I’ve been using them for years, I’ve been recommending them millions of people as well with great success, so I feel really confident with the quality control that they implement.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Awesome, very cool. And I know, today, we are really getting into a lot of the essential oils and the hormone connection which is great. And this is kind of I think a perfect segway for you to kinda dive in and just keep people a little sneak preview about your book which is gonna be I think a more in depth version of this conversation.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. So, I have a new book comin’ out, I don’t know when this is airing, but do have a new book coming out, it’s called “The Essential Oils Hormone Solution”. And it literally, not only do I go into the “Why”, the- the- the chemical, biochemical “Why” of what’s going on in the body-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: So often women are like, “Well, what do you have for menopause?”, and I’m just like, “Well, what about menopauses that concern?”, you know? And- and what if- what if it isn’t menopause at all, maybe it’s something else? And so, understanding the- the chemical implications, what’s going on with hormones, then giving women oils, protocols, self care, it’s all built in, and then I have a 14-day hormone reset program that contains my hormone trifecta which is a combination of food, oils and self care. And when you put those things together, it really is magic. So, that is what the book entails. 400-pages.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Woah!

Dr. Mariza Snyder: It’s a very big book, with 40 pages of bibliography. So, I did hundreds of hours of research for this book.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That’s amazing.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Yeah.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And then, the book’s called what, “The Essential…”, can you repeat it again?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Oh, yeah, “The Essential Oils Hormone Solution”. Here is this what it-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yes.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -looks like, and it’s on-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Perfect.

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -it’s on Amazon. It’s selling like “Hot Cake” which makes me so-

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It’s already out now?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: -happy. Yes. Well, it’s- it’s right now, it’s for pre-order but people were buying it.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Great. I’m gonna put the links- the Amazon links down below. So, if anyone’s listening to this on the iTunes or YouTube, just click below and you’ll be able to get it. That’s awesome. Is there any other information at all you wanna share with the listeners here before we wrap up?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: I would just say, I think the biggest message that you and I probably bring to table is that, you really have- you really are the CEO of your health. You know, we have a- there’s a lot of great practitioners out there like Dr. Justin and myself who can really guide you on this path, but just know that there is- there’s ownership for you. And that, you don’t have- you know, you don’t need to be told that you’re just gonna have to live with this disease or this condition, but there’s definitely a way out, it’s just a matter of deciding that yes, “It’s time for me”, and just reaching out to people like ourselves, be- listening to Dr. Justin’s podcasts, because that’s exactly what we’re here to to do is to really navigate that journey for you, but you’re making the best decisions for health.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool. And if listeners wanna get more information about you, where is the best place to go?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: So, I have a podcast myself, it’s called the Essentially You podcast, and it’s a great place to find me, it’s everywhere. Uhm, I have other books as well, but then, my website is drmariza.com, I have fun, awesome little chit-chit there, on the top 5 oils for hormone balance, you guys go and grab that, and then if you do pre-order the book, I have $300 worth in bonuses that instantly gets delivered to your inbox, so you can get started right away. So, even if you’re like, “Man, I just- the bo- book isn’t gonna be here for a couple weeks”, no worries, the bonuses will hook you up, until a book arrives.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool. And just for the listeners, there’s a silent “Z” in that name here. D-R M-A-R-I-Z-A-[dot].com, and I see a cool little optin’ on the top 5 essential oils for hormone balance. So, while you’re up there, feel free and get that. Dr. Mariza, anything else you wanna add?

Dr. Mariza Snyder: That- I think that’s it, I think we covered a good amount of information. Dr. Justin, thank you so much for the great questions, it was such a pleasure to be here.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Thanks to in the part of the podcast. Thanks Dr. Mariza!

Dr. Mariza Snyder: Mm-hmm.


References:

The Essential Oils Hormone Solution

https://justinhealth.com/products/antifungal-tea-tree-oil-body-wash/

https://www.drmariza.com/

https://www.doterra.com/

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