Join Dr. Justin Marchegiani and Evan Brand as they talk about Magnesium – its importance and reasons for deficiency. Listen to them and learn the symptoms and implications of not having enough magnesium in our health.
Discover Magnesium Threonate and Magnesium Taurate as the listeners pose questions about it. Explore the different sources of magnesium that can be found in natural sources, whether food or supplement. And know about the changes that you can make in your lifestyle that will have an impact on magnesium and in turn, bring positive effects to your health.
In this episode, we cover:
1:45 Importance of Magnesium
3:10 Magnesium Deficiency Symptoms
6:27 Magnesium Threonate
8:38 Magnesium Taurate
15:57 Top Ten Food Sources of Magnesium
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And we’re live on Youtube and we are live on Facebook. Evan, my man, we’re back. Whats going on, man?
Evan Brand: How you doing? Feels like uh just– yesterday we were doing this.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Its still a live Q&A. Just a few minutes ago, I appreciate you uh – gracing us with your presence at the inn.
Evan Brand: How did that go? What did you do? You just went in there, and you just said, “Hey, I’m here to ask – uh answer questions, start asking” and that was it?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. We gotta start on a little Impromptu Functional Medicine Club, you know. Instead of doing comedy and skits, we just do our functional medicine info.
Evan Brand: I agree.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It would make us look better, what do you think?
Evan Brand: I agree. Let’s do it.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Cool man. Well, I’m live on Facebook here. You’re not gonna be able to hear Evan’s beautiful voice on YouTube. So I’ll see if we can a link below. You can also go to YouTube.com/justinhealth and I’ll try to put a up on here, right now so people can access that information if they are ready to go over there. So Evan, why don’t chat for a minute about uh –magnesium.
Evan Brand: Yes. This is huge and we've gotta give credit where credit is due. And so Morley Robbins from gotmag.org I’m not quite sure how that worked if he founded it or what, but the magnesium advocacy group, it's just an incredible source of information about magnesium-
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Absolutely.
Evan Brand: How big of an issue is magnesium deficiency; Why is magnesium deficiency happening; why is this so much more prevalent in the modern world; how can you test for your status; and what is your protocol; how do you restore magnesium and what type of symptoms would someone listening be experiencing if you were deficient. That’s what we want to cover today – together today.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Absolutely. Well magnesium over 1000 in enzymatic roles in the body, really important as a muscle relaxer; really important for blood sugar handling; uhm – really important just to – for anabolic Krebs cycle for helping to reduce the brain inflammation. So many different things. The more stressed your under, the more you’re actually gonna burned through magnesium. The more you eat sugar, right? The more refined sugar, the more –magnesium’s the cofactor for metabolising sugar; so high sugar diets and high stressed diets are one of the major ways you’re gonna deplete magnesium. Number one, you deplete it because you’re burning it out more to – to process it. Two, for stress, you’re gonna dump more of it in the kidneys into the urine. And then number three, if you’re busy eating crappy food, you are not getting magnesium rich foods, leafy greans and such in your diet and boost up your magnesium.
Evan Brand: Yeah, let’s over a couple of statistics here. In terms of magnesium deficiency statistics, two out of every three Americans-
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.
Evan Brand: -do not consume even the RDA from magnesium, which is 500 mg a day. A lot of times the RDA’s are crap and we typically like people above those, but even that, people are not meeting that 500 mg. And then for those headed to the hospital, uhm – 80% of patients in an ICU setting are considered magnesium deficient.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Wow.
Evan Brand: So that’s pretty interesting. There in the wait- Morely kinda breaks down the his uh –magnesium deficiency symptom. And he’s got tons of scientific literature on this, too. He’s got your uh – mild symptoms such as like food cravings for sugar, headaches, hiccups, hyper-, hypoglycemia, irritability, loss of appetite, mood swings, muscle cramps, nausea, and nervousness, poor memory, uh – weakness and then you can go into the really, really big magnesium issues like uhm – A fib, which is what my grandmother's got – cardiac atrial fibrillation. You've got congestive heart failure; you've got obesity; you’ve got renal failure; you've got stroke; you've got alcoholism, which makes sense; you've got celiac disease linked; you’ve got chronic kidney disease; concussions; depression; failure to thrive. I mean we could just list a thousand. Even PMS, I mean, we could list a thousand and bore people but I think a lot of those symptoms will probably hit home from many people listening.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, 100%. And again, magnesium is super important, especially like in today's day and age of anxiety, right? And mood issues, one of the first things that we’re reaching for with mood, is like a benzodiazepine or like an antidepressant. And one of things that you can do to kinda like wind down and relax your nervous system and kinda relax your stress handling systems, is up to magnesium. That can make such a huge benefit.
Evan Brand: Well, remember that one night, I think it was when I was about to move back to Kentucky and I was stressed out, we had the house all packed up in Austin, I called you, I’m like, “Yo, my heart is 5000 beats a minute.”
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally.
Evan Brand: This is crazy. And you go, “Oh, man, don’t worry just do a gram of magnesium.” I’m like, “Alright, I’m going for it.” I did a gram of magnesium and things slowly came back down to normal. So, you know, I've personally experience the benefits of magnesium. And you and I use it in some form, typically with all of our clients. Even if it's just a uh – maintenance dose, so whether we’re trying to do a therapeutic intervention, which we can talk. Either way, we’ve typically got everyone on some sort of magnesium somewhere.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. Whether it’s in our multi- support and typically the big one’s that I like, right? I like a good magnesium malate because it interplays with the Krebs cycle as well. And it’s chelated to an amino acid malate.
Evan Brand: Yeah, its pretty cheap, too, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. It’s pretty affordable. I mean that and glycinate are really good. They’re very well absorbed. Uh – and they’re also gonna help with the Krebs cycle, which – that’s gonna help the blood sugar issues; it’s gonna help with energy issues; and it’s gonna help with stress and relaxation. That’s a good one. Magnesium citrates, commonly in like uh – a natural calm, which is really good. I typically do a little bit of mag citrate at night in a powder form and I mix it with collagen, so it’s kinda like – almost like my own little magnesium glycinate coz I’m taking it with all the glycine and collagen. And l like that for bed for hour and hour of relaxation.
Evan Brand: Yeah. Most of our audience is pretty advanced but it is worth mentioning that if you are thinking of picking up a magnesium supplement, if you go to Walmart or Target or just your typical store to get magnesium, you’re likely gonna end up getting magnesium oxide, which has a 4% absorption rate. And typically there’s gonna be tons and tons of fillers, gluten, rice, other types of stuff in there. And so we only use professional grade products in our lines and then also, you know, we will refer out to other professional lines as needed.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. We got in some questions on a Mag Threonate here. A Mag Threonate, again, that’s gonna be really good especially if there’s some significant malabsorption issues. It helps with healthy brain inflammation, so taking it transdermally can help coz it can cross the blood-brain barrier. And if there’s like a lot of brain inflammation, and we’ll see that like in organic acid test. We’ll see an elevated – quinolinate or we’ll see an elevation in picolinate – picolinic acid. And that will be a big sign for increasing magnesium and if we have kids that are like autistic, or a lot of gut issues, or people can’t swallow pills, the transdermal’s great. I did flow tank, man. I did a flow tank over the weekend. So I was in 1200 pounds of magnesium salts. So after I came out of outside, it’s like shallow and super relaxed.
Evan Brand: Where did you go? Did you go to my friend zero gravity, over there at Manchaka? Or where did you go?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That zero gravity, man. How did you know?
Evan Brand: Well, coz Kevin – I know Kevin. He’s been on my podcast three times – the owner.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, I gotta have him on my podcast. That’s awesome.
Evan Brand: Yeah. He’s in – he’s in Austin. You guys can do an in-person podcast, if you wanted.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, I love it. I’m definitely excited, man. I love it. I love it.
Evan Brand: Let me connect you guys right now, then.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Let’s do it. Live in the flesh.
Evan Brand: Alright. So uh – I did wanna mention about Threonate coz I saw there was a question about it because I discussed it in my latest video, on my YouTube channel – my top 12 ways of reducing anxiety. And I love Threonate. So I have a formula called, Calm Clarity, and that’s what I use for people. And there’s a lot of cool research about Threonate specifically for people with PTSD. So I do have some veterans that I have used the Threonate with them and they say that it seriously works. And even if they’re not veterans, if they just experience trauma, it does an amazing stuff gain, the magnesium into the brain, much more than just getting it into the gut.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. I mean that’s gets really good stuff. In my line, we have Magnesium Supreme. It’s what I used and that’s the magnesium malate. Uh – and I’m doing an lot of Krebs cycle uhm – support prgoram. I find a lot of people with Krebs Cycle or mitochondrial issues. They do really well uh – the magnesium uhm – malate just because of the uh – Krebs cycle.
Evan Brand: Yup. That’s great.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So looking at other things here, we got – so my buddy, Steve, here on Facebook wants to talk about Magnesium Taurate for blood pressue issues. He wants to know is there mag uh – glycinate and taurate. Well, outside of just the obvious, that glycine is amino acid and taurine is an amino acid. So they’re just bound to different amino acids. I know glycinate has phenomenal absorption. In the research, it’s like 90+ percent get absorbed. What’s your take on magnesium Taurate, Evan?
Evan Brand: I like Taurate, but I haven't used it as much as glycinate, the malates, citrates, or the threonates. Doesn’t mean it’s not as good, I just haven’t had as much hands on experience with it.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. I just don’t have a ton of experience with it, Steve – but I mean, binding it to an amino acid is good if you’re getting a good clinical effect, let us know in the chat window. We’d love to hear that. But I’m definitely more biased towards a gycinate and malate but in the end, I’ll let the clinical outcome guide the ship.
Evan Brand: Agreed. That’s the best answer.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Absolutely. Anything else, Evan, you wanna address? Like I gotta jump on another podcast here in a few uh – with our friend here, Kevin over at relive your bodies that will be – go on. Anything else you wanna – we wanna knock down here, in this quick little magnesium podcast.
Evan Brand: Epsom Salt Baths are great. They’re very easy. The Float tanks are gonna be better, though. And you’re gonna spend a lot of money on Epsom Salt if you’re trying to even match something that would be therapeutic. So, look up floatationlocations.com, and you can check out – type in your zipcode or if you’re out of the United States, type in your postal code and you can actually find float centers that are located near you. And typically you’re gonna spend about 60-75 bucks per hour, but it’s the best hour of your life. And when you come out, you’re gonna feel like you’ve been reborn.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Highly recommended, especially the whole sensory deprivation aspect where you open your eyes and you just don't know if you're asleep or awake. That’s pretty crazy. It has a big effect on relaxation. I may even go tonight, man. They’re open at 10 o'clock. I may –
Evan Brand: I know. Now, was that your first? First float?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: First float. Loved it.
Evan Brand: Are you serious?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Loved it.
Evan Brand: Oh, my god.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: First float.
Evan Brand: So I did my first float back in 2013. That was when I actually live flew into go to the Paleo f(x) for the first time and that center wasn't open. I went to actually this little house. It was like a massage studio and they happen to have one of the small float tanks in there. And I had an out of body experience. I was basically looking at myself from a third . I've had some insane experience. There’s one time at Kevin's facility, I visited Egypt during my float session. Like I was sitting on a pyramid overlooking the Nile River as it used to flow in Egypt, and then I snapped back into my body and I was, “huh” It was unbelievable. So yeah, float tanks are just unreal. We can do a whole show on it. Uh – Robert said, “What if taking magnesium causes slight nausea?” It think that – with citrate. Do you have any say on that, Justin, in terms of nausea and magnesium? I think it possibly could depend on what you're getting. Coz if you are doing the natural calm, and you don't feel well with the Stevia, maybe that's part of it and not the magnesium itself. What do you think?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. Regarding that piece, if you take too much magnesium, especially like uh – a magnesium citrate or oxide, it will create bowel flow, it will help – it’s a natural laxative, right? Magnesium oxide is actually a pretty good laxative; not good for absorption, but good for moving the bowels. Same with citrate – citrate is better for absorption but also good for moving the bowels. That could help move the bowels a bit which is excellent. Uhm – but again, if you move the bowels too much, or if you’re kinda in between, if you don’t get enough to move the bowels, if you don’t get enough to move the bowels, you can just kinda feel like your stomach in knots a little bit, and your stool is a little loose, so you just may be in that in between magnesium tolerance dosage. What do you think?
Evan Brand: Yeah. That, I agree with you. Uh – Riley said, “Please talk more about Magnesium Threonate.” Okay, I’ll tell you a couple of things here. Uhm – there was a study in the Journal of Neurosciences 2011 that suggest an enhancement of plasticity in brain regions such as the prefrontal cortex and/or the hippocampus with the use of uh – Magnesium L- Threonate. Also, the fear memory, without erasing the original fear memory, so this is like the trauma use. There is also another part, there is another piece of research here that shows that it can increase learning ability, working memory, short and long-term memory. And then also – let’s see, there’s one other thing. It will mediate the effects of exposure to stress on memory. And so basically take 2 grams for maintenance but if you've got memory loss, or other issues then you’re gonna 3 or 4 grams of the Threonate.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I love it. It’s great.
Evan Brand: There you go.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Magnesium is excellent. It’s a natural beta-blocker as well. Uhm –part of the receptors on the beta cells of the heart, they get stimulated by calcium, right? And magnesium and calcium kinda have this natural ratio and magnesium’s gonna come in there and block the beta receptors of the heart. So it decreases that – that stimulation. So that helps to relax the heart a little bit. And if the sympathetics kinda in overdrive, it will help bring that blood pressure down naturally, too, which is really cool.
Evan Brand: Ah. I love it. Okay. So before somebody gets in some type of ,crazy hard drug, it is possible that they could get on some magnesium first.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. Plus uhm the medication into the uhm – that medication and that medication, Foxglove is a natural herb for the medication that helps kinda reduce stroke, fall and reduce the heart pumping. That medication is a natural herb called Foxglove. So people, just starting low dose, Foxglove, if you’re having a lot of overly heart stimulation, like your heart is beating out of your chest, you know. First make sure you don’t have a heart attack, right? That’s number one. Rule that out by your conventional medical doctor. But uh – Foxglove and magnesium can really help kinda relax the heart a bit.
Evan Brand: You oughta chat with uh – Dr. Cawin, too. We talked about Ouabain. Ouabain it’s like uh – it’s like an ancient medicine but it's used for heart attacks. And he said it should be basically standard care are in all uhm – ambulances. When they go to pick up someone that could potentially be having a heart attack, he says Ouabain should be on board on every ambulance in the world and it would save a lof of lives.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: What is that exactly?
Evan Brand: I believe it’s some type of – I wanna say, it’s some type of plant. The spelling of it is really weird. It’s like –
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It’s not Wobenzym, right? You’re saying something else?
Evan Brand: That’s correct. I’m saying Ouabain. It’s O-U-A-B-A-I-N. It’s also known as Strophanthin. And if you look it up, it was uh – traditionally use as an aero poison in Eastern Africa for hunting and warfare. But in lower doses, it can be used medically.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Ouabain.
Evan Brand: Yeah, Ouabain.Yes. So that’s a trip but, uh – it is some type of plant. It’s uh – Strophantin, that’s what it is.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Almost as good as when you say matcha.
Evan Brand: You like when I say “matcha” ?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Matcha tea. I love it. Love it. Very cool. It’s like word candy, man.
Evan Brand: Yes, it is. Well if there’s any question about magnesium, let us know. But otherwise, this is pretty straightforward. Modern life depletes magnesium, you have to replenish. I like float tanks. I like magnesium oil. Justin and I both use magnesium supplementally.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yup.
Evan Brand: We use it with our clients, too. So, also get your leafy, green vegetables, too, though. I mean that’s a good maintenance way, too.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. I mean let’s go over the top ten foods real quick. Let’s just make sure everyone knows what’s the top 10. I mean, off the bat, just your leafy green are gonna be excellent.
Evan Brand: Yup.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Your kale, your spinach, your leafy greens are just gonna be absolutely great. I mean if you look outside of the leafy greens, what else we have for magnesium? We have nuts and seeds. Squash and pumpkin seeds are gonna be the absolute highest. Fish is gonna be right there, in number three. Uhm, beans and lentils – again, uh – just be careful with that, right? White beans and French beans and Black eyed beans and kidney beans will be the best – Chickpeas as well. Again, if you’re kinda Paleo or you’re having some issues with the legumes, and you wanna stay away from that, uh – whole-grain, brown rice, but we’re not gonna make a recommendation there because it’s – grains are creating any malabsorption or gut irritation, you’re not gonna absorb the magnesium, anyway. Plus there’s lectins and phytates in there that will bind it up. So even though it says it’s good, the question is, “Do you actually absorb it?” And I will put a – a nay on that one.
Evan Brand: Agreed.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Avocados are really excellent. Uhm – litle bit of bananas. Remember, like we’re talking about magnesium here. People think – when I say, bananas, what nutrient do you think of?
Evan Brand: Potassium
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Bananas – bananas.
Evan Brand: Potassium. Yeah.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Exactly. But avocados have twice the amount of potassium –
Evan Brand: I know.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: – than bananas do.
Evan Brand: I know. How much does it – do you have any type of numbers in front of you, like how many milligrams of magnesium or – in one avocado, for example like a husk?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. So uhm – 27 milligrams in a hundred grams per banana. And then in an avocado, it’s about uh – 29. So just a little bit more.
Evan Brand: And that’s for a 100 grams avocado. I don’t know how much is a 100 grams. I mean how many grams are in one full avocado?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Typically, about 3.3 ounces is a 100 gram. So probably about 1 avocado, maybe a little more.
Evan Brand: I mean I’ve had some avocados. I feel like they’re a pound.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I know.
Evan Brand: It’s gonna be –
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I know. So – Just do the math, you know, figure out what 3.3 ounces is. It’s like the medium kinda husk avocado uhm – again, you’re probably okay. And again, we’re taking out the outer coating and the big uh – seed in the middle.
Evan Brand: Right.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Well, anything else we wanna hit there, so far?
Evan Brand: I don’t think so. Pumpkin seeds are great. I’m a huge fan of pumpkin seeds. Uhm, what about sunflower or kernels? Were those on the list at all?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Uhm – sunflower, kernels were not but we did have the pumpkin and squash seed. So- I’ll give you the run down. Uh – sesame, brazil, almonds, cashews, pinenuts, mixed nuts, peanuts, pecans and walnuts. In that exact order. Outside of squash and pumkin being number one and two.
Evan Brand: I’m a huge fan of walnuts, too. Put a little cinnamon on those bad boys, uhm.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love it. Love it. Excellent. And then obviously, uhm – dark chocolate at the end, great source of magnesium. Why the women at their period time crave dark chocolate? Very high source of magnesium. And again, if you’re choosing high dark chocolate, high cacao rate, you’re gonna get more cacao, more dark chocolate without the extra sugar and berry if it’s gonna be a milk chocolate. So try to reach for higher quality. Endangered species, 88%. Cobber on the front, uh Lindt. Any other good brands you like?
Evan Brand: So the endangered species is good. I love what they’re doing to save these animals, but they’re not organic. Trader Joe’s.Trader Joe’s has an organic bar. Get this – three ingredients, it’s 2.99 for the bar, I believe it’s 72%. And it’s coco cacao butter and sugar.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It’s nice. That’s good. But for endangered species, they are GMO and they are certified gluten-free. So –
Evan Brand: They’re GMO free?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: They’re GMO free, at least and they’re certified gluten – So that’s. And you know, you get two good things ideally if we could have the certified organic that’d be better.They do have one but it’s like a 75%. So you could go down to the 75 and get it that and what will you get, you’d get a little bit more sugar your bucks there.
Evan Brand: So what do you got in your fridge? You got 88 in there?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: 88.
Evan Brand: Nice.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: 88. Absolutely, man. And I also got a couple of the KIND bars, too. There’s a 5 uh – 4 grams of sugar the uh – the uh – Madagascar Vanilla. Love those.
Evan Brand: That sounds good. Reviews help. They very, very much help. So go to uh – Beyond Wellness Radio on iTunes. That’s where Justin’s podcast is housed. Put a revie there. I mean, it takes a few minutes and you’re probably just gonna ignore me because just like when a pop up comes up on your phone and this is, “Hey, do you love this app review?” And you just click, “No, thanks” Don’t “no thanks” me. Please review Beyond Wellness on iTunes and notjustpaleo, too. And – and review it. It takes literally two minutes but when you do that, what it does is keeps us in the top 100 of health. So that way we’re beating out Jillian Michaels which is the exercise more, eat less approach. And I don’t want to be number one on the – on the rankings. We want functional medicine at the top of the charts because this is with the masses needs. So the review helps us to do that.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, by the way, yeah – people Facebook, give us a review, notjustpaleo.com and justinhealth.com Click on the podcast link, iTunes review. Also you just mentioned, biggest loser people like Jillian Michael's. Bob Harper just had a heart attack last week.
Evan Brand: Tell people about that if they didn’t hear. Just give –
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. So, Bob Harper was Jillian Michael’s side kick. They’re on the biggest loser and uhm – you know, I like the guy – his personality, pretty cool guy. But again, they’re kinda recommending this exercise more, eat less low-calorie, whole grain, low-fat kinda mind set. No emph – no emphasis on uhm – nutrient quality; no emphasis on inflammatory nutrients; no emphasis on toxins and organic foods. And again, just do more exercise, more oxidative stress, not good fats, it’s not healthy animal products. The guy gets a heart attack. I mean, maybe he’s not eating that way, but that’s the way he’s suggesting a lot of the contestants to eat. And the guy’s in his 40’s. You shouldn’t be getting a heart attack looking like as he does in his 40’s. Again, fit and healthy are two different things, though.
Evan Brand: Yes, so let me give a couple of more notes so people understand the insanity of this. I mean as you mentioned, he’s the host of the show.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah.
Evan Brand: On TV that’s getting broadcast to millions of people. Yeah, he looks okay, like if you look at his uh – his picture, there’s a couple article where he posts like an Instagram picture of him. He looks okay externally. I mean the guy is not like overweight. But internally, it could be a whole different show. So –
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Totally.
Evan Brand: He was working out at a New York City gym, and he collapsed, and he was unconscious in hospital for two days.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Crazy.
Evan Brand: So, there you go. And he’s a called, fitness expert. I’m sorry if my fitness expert who’s young has a heart attack. Unless there was some other type of genetic or you know –
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Heart Valve issue or some kind of abnormality in the heart valve at birth that you didn’t know about, I mean –
Evan Brand: Yeah.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: This guy is pushing the diet that we don’t agree with and more than likely getting excessive oxidative stress with the exercise piece to go in there. So yeah, keep that in mind. And lots of the stress, that’s the stress component that will cause you to pee out more magnesium and Steve, 5.9 for your red blood cell magnesium is perfect. I like five and above. And the medication is the Digitalis. Digitalis is the uh – medication that is the uh – synthetic version of Foxglove that helps reduce stroke volume.
Evan Brand: And of course, we do want him – we wish the guy a speedy recovery. But man, if you say you’re a fitness expert and you’re pushing a low-fat more exercise approach, man, that’s not good. That’s not good. So we like exercise. We both do it, but it’s the dose make the poison and the intensity makes the poison, too. And those are two levers that we adjust based on clinical symptoms and lab results.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: A 100%. Anything else here, Evan, you wanna address? I gotta jump on another podcast. We’re on a podcast cycle here today. Giving them the question you wanna hit real quick?
Evan Brand: No. That’s it, man. Lets wrap it up.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Alright. Give us 5 star reviews and we’ll be back more frequently and more questions with more content and more great guests. We’re here for you guys.
Evan Brand: Take Care.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Evan, my man it’s been real – You take care.
Evan Brand: Bye.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Bye.
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