The video discusses strategies to eradicate fatigue and spark motivation. Key points include the importance of sunlight exposure, the benefits of cold water exposure, and the role of gut health and nutrient deficiencies in motivation and fatigue. Other topics covered include the impact of relationships and mental diet on motivation, the role of brain chemistry in fatigue, and the connection between inflammation and motivation.
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Dr. Justin Marchegiani: We're gonna give you a different take on motivation and fatigue in this podcast than we have typically. So excited to dive in. Evan, my man. How we doing, brother? Evan Brand Oh, doing really well. We had a fun
Evan Brand: pre chat here and, uh, you know, we're talking about sunlight and skin health and all sorts of things.
Evan Brand: And, you know, that's one easy low hanging fruit that I think we could just jump right into with motivation and fatigue problems. You know, we talked about this for, I mean, literally 500 episodes later, here we are. And, you know, Still, I find people in my neighborhood, they have their blinds and their curtains closed all day, and they're not getting outside, they're not getting that bright light, they're not getting the sunlight to really trigger the morning wake up, and so I think it's easy if you're busy, you're getting your kids ready for school, it's so easy for you to just like stay in your house, jump in the car, drop them off, go back home, go back in your house, and you're never getting that bright light exposure, so me personally, Half the windows in my house or more don't even have the ability to have curtains on them.
Evan Brand: It's just wide open. And so, uh, if you use a lux meter on your iPhone or whatever, Android LUX, you can measure your light coming in. I mean, I'm hoping that most people are getting at least 10, 000 lux in the morning, but. you'll probably find that you're getting 500 or less.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Well, let's go into like simple strategies out of the gates to help with the motivation component, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: We talked about light. I think that early morning light is a wonderful way to get motivation. I think like my top three strategies, right? If you can do it, nice, high quality, you know, um, coffee, espresso, something organic, nice, get your feet on the solid concrete or grass, get that good grounding going and get some cold water exposure.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: First thing. I think those are like my top three. kind of palliative therapies, meaning that they would plug into an overall kind of functional medicine plan. But I think the cold does all kinds of things regarding, um, HPA axis stimulation. It stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system. Um, it also aids in digestion because it forces the blood to go into your body, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Into your organs where the sympathetic stressed out nervous response goes away. So it drives it inward to keep the organ strong activates that parasympathetic response and can really have wonderful benefits modulating cortisol as well. So I love that as kind of big thing out of the gates. And like you said, nourishing that pineal gland with that high It's a good starting point and you know it's hard to overdo it in that early morning sun too.
Evan Brand: And this is easy and it's free. I mean, I know it's hard to like the cold, like there's a lot of people that are going to be resistant to that and until summertime and then they're dying and they're, they're willing, but I know if the weather is still cool, it's going to be tough to push yourself into the cold, but you know, I've been guilty of it too, where I kind of feel.
Evan Brand: Demotivated and I'm like, Oh no, and then I actually jump in the water and get that cold, that cold air, that cold water on me. And then I'm like revitalized. I'm like, why did I resist that so bad? Like I feel so good now, but I was resisting it. I'm just standing there with my arms crossed. I'm just kind of like blah.
Evan Brand: And then I jump in. It's like. I'm reborn. Why did I fight that? Oh,
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: yeah. I was at a resort in Cancun last week on a family vacation with my, my kids and my wife, and we did every morning, we did hydrotherapy, hot and cold baths, and the cold was amazing. Now, I've always done cold showers probably for the last decade.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: One thing I'm looking at bringing in, you know, bringing in, uh, a company that does a cold plunge, putting that cold plunge in my office, and then, you know, maybe once a day between patients, just get naked real fast, like, just go from my shoulders down, like, I won't get wet in my hair, so I'll keep my hair all clean.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Three minutes in, out, dry off, back in the office, and I'm like totally ready to go. So, that's one modality I'm looking at bringing in to the office to kind of give me that jump start midday. So, I think cold exposure can be an amazing, uh, thing to kind of pull you out, so to speak.
Evan Brand: Evan Brand Yeah. Alright, so let's go a little deeper.
Evan Brand: So, I mean, these are the easy surface level things that you're gonna see on Instagram. A hundred thousand different influencers all saying the same thing about cold, right? So, let's go more functional medicine stuff. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yes, 100%. Evan Brand Other people are not talking about. And a lot of that is gonna be in brain chemistry.
Evan Brand: And I was telling you before we hit record, I saw a guy last week, early 20s, and he's, he's built. I mean, he's a strong dude, and he's doing well. He, he's, Doing okay in his job, but he's having trouble just getting out of bed. He's having trouble just getting motivated for his job He works from home so he's Able to slack off a little bit because he doesn't have to report at a certain time But he knows that his productivity is not where it should be And then when we look at his organic acids test, even though he's eating lots of grass fed meats.
Evan Brand: He's even eating Grass fed heart he was taking heart organ supplements and he was eating heart This guy on paper was low across the board with his nutrients. His CoQ10 was low, his B vitamins and vitamin C were low, and all of his neurotransmitter markers were low. Dopamine, the venom and delic for the endorphins were low, and also the serotonin was low.
Evan Brand: So I told him on paper, I'm like, look man, we see in your gut, you've got a lot of bacterial overgrowth. He had Klebsiella and a few others like Citrobacter. I'm like, I'm just gonna go ahead and blame these gut bugs because your diet is so on point. Why are you this nutrient deficient and this neurotransmitter deficient?
Evan Brand: But I think that's where his motivation issues and fatigue were coming from. Dr. Justin
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Marchegiani like from a functional medicine lens, right, we talked about some of the palliative kind of like biohacker like modalities, a lot of those modalities, they don't fix the underlying cause. So we always draw a line in functional medicine world, palliative modalities that kind of give you the kind of bump things up.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And then we look at kind of root cause things. And so, you know, someone coming into our show, we're all wait, we're already working on like a kind of a whole food type of dietary template, good protein, good fats, you know, food quality, the whole nine yards, like sleep, hydration, electrolytes, like those are already a given.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Um, I don't want to spend half the podcast on that. So just kind of check that box, go back to other podcasts where we talk more about that in depth. But looking at some of the motivation things, you know, for guys, you'll see it with low testosterone, testosterone has a lot of receptor sites in the frontal cortex that play a major role with motivation.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And so, that can be a big thing with guys. Now, the solution isn't just to go on bioidentical T. Most people do that the wrong way anyway. They give too much. They give it too infrequently. They have aromatization problems. They increase estrogen. They put their FSH and LH in the tank, which is the upstream, uh, pituitary hormones, which causes their testicles to shrink up.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So, not the best. There's other strategies and herbs and nutrients that can help. Like, Ashwagandha is helpful. Sapamato can be helpful. Tankadali, Tribulus. Um, Orchic, actual, you know, bovine glandular support of the Orchic gland. Um, that can be very helpful as well. So, these are some good strategies out of the gate.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Getting enough protein. Obviously, resistance training. Getting, moving your muscles a little bit in a, some kind of a functional movement pattern. Getting some kind of a high bay, high intensity intervals training going to get those muscles going, get that. brain derived neurotropic factor, so you can get neuroplasticity, stimulate new, uh, neuronal cell signaling and growth in the brain.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That's kind of a good starting thing out of the gates, um, for men. And obviously, some of that will interplay with women. A lot of times with women, having lower estrogen, lower progesterone, and or estrogen dominance. And estrogen dominance may not necessarily be low estro uh, may not necessarily be high estrogen.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It could be higher estrogen in relation to progesterone. So it's good to look at that. You could still have high estrogen because of mole toxicity, plastics, pesticides, right? These are all other variables. Maybe you're on birth control pills. These are all other variables that could give you high estrogen as well as estrogen dominance.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: But that lower progesterone and that estrogen dominance type of situation is what's going to drive more of that in females and the lower T. slash low dopamine for men. And we could also throw dopamine in for women too because dopamine gets burnt downstream to make adrenaline. So anytime you get chronically stressed, you're going to take that dopamine, you'll bring it downstream into adrenaline.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And we'll see that in these organic acids with high vanilla mandelate. Um, or even low vanomandelate, or even just the, you know, the dopac being low or the homovanolate also being lower or high, that tells us there's a metabolism issue in those areas. Evan Brand
Evan Brand: Yeah, well said. And this is not a rare problem, by the way, I know sometimes when you hear this geeky stuff on the podcast, you're thinking like, okay, there's just this random freak show out there that's listening to this.
Evan Brand: That has that wrong with them. Poor guy. No, I mean, this is probably eight out of every 10 people that we test. This is a major, major issue. When we look at the productivity of the country, you think about your garbage, man, your CPA, your doctor, I've seen them all pilots. I mean, you name it. You and I have worked with a lot of different executives and, uh, people in professional athletes and all these people look low, the.
Evan Brand: Nutritional quality of the food, even if it's organic, it doesn't mean it's nutrient dense. We've talked about this before, but the USDA's papers on nutrient density and food from the 1920s versus current day, it's a lot less nutrient dense. And so we have to have some level of professional multi and pretty much.
Evan Brand: Everybody's protocol. And you and I, we manufacture professional supplements and then we'll add in extra nutrients on top of your typical B vitamin C complex thing. We're actually going to add CoQ10. We may add malic acid. We may add ribose, taurine. We mentioned some of the adaptogens. So, what a protocol could look like.
Evan Brand: It could be CoQ10, it could be Bs and Cs, there could be extra adaptogens to help with the energy production, such as rhodiola is one of my favorites. It could be amino acid precursors for the brain chemistry. And then, that's just your foundational piece, that most people are not even doing that. And then how we got to get to the bugs.
Evan Brand: So in that guy we mentioned in his 20s, he's got a lot of dysbiosis. And so even though his diet's great, his supplements look great, his gut's still not really well at all. His secretory IgA was in the tank, his calprotectin was up, he had gut inflammation even though he had amazing diet, so this idea that you can eat your way out of this problem is just really not true.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Dr. Justin Marchegiani 100%, I mean, we have different immune cells in the brain, we have the astrocytes that make up the blood brain barrier which protects eat different toxins and things from getting into the brain. We also have the. microglial cells, right? The microglial cells are really important as well.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Um, because these cells are gonna gobble up inflammation and junk. We also have dendritic cells, right? These dendritic cells basically grab different antigens, foreign proteins, brings it back to the immune system and it's it's kind of an antigen presenting cell and then it basically shows the immune system the different foreign proteins and that up regulates different T cells to go after it.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And so, what does this mean? It means that if you have leaky gut or gut permeability, you're creating different immune responses that can, um, activate the immune system in the brain. And so, what does that mean? When the immune system in the brain is hyperactive, you're gonna see mood issues, you're gonna see depression, you're gonna see anxiety, you're gonna see brain fog.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I know today we're talking about fatigue and motivation. These, the motivation and fatigue can be impacted by these things, right? And then, of course, a lot of the neurotransmitters that make the, you know, the raw material to make these neurotransmitters, they come from protein. So, it's easy to see. You know, one of the common symptoms we're gonna see is some kind of a gut symptom.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And, you know, when you see someone with IBS, you're almost always gonna see, like, you're bloating, your gas, your diarrhea, your constipation. It could be one or all, but you're gonna see mood issues that connect to that as well. And, you know, your conventional MD is gonna just throw you on an SSRI. Well, we know a lot of the common causes of depression in the brain is gonna be inflammation based.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: That's why they've done studies where they've just given a placebo group nothing, and then they've given the actual, um, control group, or they've given the, you know, the control group an air placebo, and they gave the treatment group ibuprofen and NSAID, and they saw significant improvements in mood. Why?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Because ibuprofen works on inflammation. And inflammation in the brain is a big root cause of these mood issues. I'm not saying go take ibuprofen. We know according to the data, ibuprofen taken correctly kills about 18, 000 people year minimum, which is rheumatological issue. So taking a drug long term that has a lot of side effects, yeah, acutely.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It's one thing, long term, not good. There's too many other nutrients that we can do that will modulate inflammation in the brain. Whether it's, you know, methylated res resveratrol, like, uh, you know, a, a, uh, an R resveratrol or a, uh, terastilbene, which is a methylated curcuminoid, um, a liposomal curcumin kind of compound, whether we're doing other like boswellia or frankincense or other anti inflammatory herbs.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: These are all very powerful things out of the gate that you can do on top of a good diet, on top of getting your gut looked at and making sure the microbiome is fixed. So we got dysbiosis, candida, H. pylori infections, those can all be root cause factors. Evan
Evan Brand: Brand Yeah, love it, man. And I love you're getting into inflammation.
Evan Brand: So we'll take it a step deeper, which is into the whole problem. This is just a more extreme manifestation of An immune problem. These mast cells become overactive due to toxins due to infections. I've dealt with this personally. We see it a lot clinically and there's certain nutrients we could use in the same family as Boswellia, some of these anti inflammatories.
Evan Brand: We may be throwing in nutrients like rutin or quercetin and other flavonoids like peria leaf to help calm those mast cells down. That was huge for me. So, I mean, this happened after the virus too. I kind of had this like post pandemic. You know, viral fatigue. And I started adding in some of the histamine support nutrients.
Evan Brand: And all of a sudden I started to recover and feel better. And this happens in kids too. So I know we're kind of talking to adults here, but if your child, if your child is in school and maybe they're suffering at school, the teachers are complaining, maybe their test scores are not good, or maybe the child is just not motivated.
Evan Brand: Maybe he doesn't even want to go to school. Uh, I know someone who pulled their kid out of school. And their motivations just too bad. They stay up too late and they have trouble getting up in the morning. So what do they do? They just pull them out of school and homeschool them instead. And so this happens a lot where the kid's not getting the adequate nutrients he needs to fuel the brain.
Evan Brand: And, uh, we could throw toxins into the mix too. So, any chemical pesticide, heavy metal, mycotoxin, those affect Dr. Justin Marchegiani. And we can measure mitochondria on the oat test. So at the end of the day, we need to look at the gut and we got to look at the urine so we can get mitochondrial and brain chemistry data.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah. Well, most people look at mast cell issues that they look at it the wrong way. It's like I look at when someone says mast cell, I'm like, all right, I kind of draw this picture of my brain. Like, here's a bucket, right? I call it histamine or inflammation bucket, right? And then you have like, inflammation.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: histamine coming from food. Most of the time histamine from food is not the issue, but, but it may be something that we have to modulate out of the gate to get symptom relief. But most of the times the big histamine vectors outside of food, right? They're primarily coming from toxins from mold or histamine in the gut, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And so those are the things, you know, once we've kind of ruled out food, Right? We're talking about mold or environmental toxins coming in, filling up that bucket. We're talking about Klebsiella, Pseudomonas, Citrobacter, our bacteria producing a lot of histamine. And then, of course, when we have a lot of bacteria issues, then we're not making enough stomach acid.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: We don't make enough stomach acid. Well, acid actually provides some level of disinfectant for the gut, which then allows more bacteria to grow, which allows, For more histamine, which then allows for more leaky gut, which then allows for more immune stimulation, right? And histamine is just, it's gonna be produced by your basophils, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Your basophils in the bloodstream, once they go outside of the bloodstream into the tissue, they become what? Mass cells. What do mass cells produce? Histamine. So, the more active your immune system is, basophils out of the blood, into the tissue, now are mass cells. Mass cells now produce histamine.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: histamine. And so if you can keep your immune system down and you look at all, what are the big, why the heck is my immune system pissed off, right? Well, 80 percent of it's in the gut. So you always look in the gut. How is mold mostly detoxified? liver, gallbladder, gut, stool. Right? And so you have to get that right.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And then of course, you know, we've other podcasts where how do I figure out if I live in a moldy home? How do I treat that? How do I remediate that? How do I, you know, so those are some things you got to look at as well, but not for this podcast, but just the mold vector, the gut vector, the gut vector, and then the immune vector, which also connects back to the leaky gut.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Evan
Evan Brand: Brand All right. I got, I got one like curve ball here and then we can wrap it up, which is, Relationships and your mental diet. And what I mean by that is you and I, when we have our conversations, whether it's us here recording or not recording, we're talking to each other the same way. Where we talk, you and I talk optimistically to each other.
Evan Brand: We talk about encouraging things to each other. We're going to get to this level and we're going to do this. Like we try to put out that positivity and it's great. And it's infectious. And I think so many people they've given us. I mean, we've got on my show on Apple, I mean, coming up on like a thousand reviews now and everybody's like, Oh man, Dr.
Evan Brand: J and Evan, like when you guys are together, there's some awesome synergy. There's some awesome vibes there and people pick up on that. So I think it's important that you do an inventory of your mental diet. Who are you listening to? What is coming in? What are you reading? Who are you following? Um, I mean, some level of comparison might be healthy, right?
Evan Brand: You look at this lady and, you know, her new house, this, and her new car, that, and she looks so put together as a parent. Her makeup's all perfect, and even though she's got all these kids, she looks like she's, she's handling it. Like, you can look at some of that stuff online, and, and you could feel inspired and motivated by it, but I think so often, these parasocial relationships, meaning it's, it's not, you don't know the person, but you, quote, know them through what you watch of them.
Evan Brand: I think that can be a real problem. And this has never happened in human history before where you could be in someone's house, but you're sitting on your couch watching them. You're not there. And so it's a, it's a double edged sword. And I find that in their studies on this too, this is not just my opinion.
Evan Brand: Instagram was voted the most depressing social media platform out there. And so you got to handle this thing in doses. And if you make content, you should probably try to make more than you consume or just be careful about the consumption. So that's, that's just the mental, the mental diet piece when it comes to the motivation.
Evan Brand: Dr. Justin
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Marchegiani Yeah. I think, um, relationships play a big role, right? Because That can be a big source of stress in your life if you don't have good relationships. My general thing on relationships, uh, you know, especially whether it's kids or your spouse, you know, decrease social media as much as possible.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: It's not real. It's fake. It's a highlight reel. It's totally curated, right? It's not reality. Adults know that. It's, but it's easy to forget. Kids definitely don't know that, right? So there's that component. I think on the relationship side, the easiest thing out of the gate is date your spouse, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Remember when you're like in the dating phase and before you have kids like you and your spouse and what you're doing is like top priority. Everything else is below. Once you have kids, once you have, um, a family, once you share a home, there's maintenance, there's logistics, there's a mortgage, then there's your kid's activity schedule.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And then like you and your, your spouse, like that becomes like six, seven, eight, nine, 10th on the priority list. Yeah. Keep you and your spouse in the top five, right? You gotta, you gotta find time. Keep it a top priority. Um, what you pay attention to appreciates, will improve. So just make sure you date your spouse.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Make sure you communicate what your needs are, right? You know, you got the, the, the, the love language book, right? Figure out kind of what you need out of the relationship. And you meet in the middle and you both share. I think it's really important thing out of the gate. Just don't forget that because relationships can be a source of nourishment where you feel great and supported, or it can be a major source of stress, um, for you to go into a relationship and expect nourishment, you have to bring it back.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So it's both you and your spouse meeting in the middle and just, just communicating, figuring out where you're at and make sure you date your spouse. That's really important.
Evan Brand: Yep. I love it. And you know, people that just don't serve you if they're not lifting you up and motivating you. Like if you hang around someone for a couple hours and then you're just completely exhausted and you want to give up on life, that's not good.
Evan Brand: That's not good. So you have to take this mental inventory of, of who, who are you around and, and what are you becoming with that influence? And, and it can be incredible if you have an amazing person, you feel like you're floating. When you leave hanging out with them, or you could feel like you've got a thousand
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: pounds on your shoulder.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: A hundred percent. Be a part of something bigger. Don't isolate yourself. Try to find things that you enjoy, whether it's, uh, spending time with your, you know, with your church group, your spiritual group, whether it's going to an MMA place where you do some kind of a, you know, physical, you know, martial arts or something, whether it's, you know, you go into the shooting range, whether it's you doing something, whatever the hobby is, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Whether it's working on your health, just figure out something that allows you to feel connected at a higher level to people. I think it's super important. Make sure you have time for your spouse, time for your kids. You know, just try to have that balanced approach. I think it's, uh, really important. I'd also say, you know, try to do something that you love, but it's hard sometimes, right?
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: You got to pay the bill. So you try to, you know, if you can't do what you love, like we do every day in our jobs, try to find good hobbies and things outside of work to, um, allow you to feel that connection.
Evan Brand: Yeah. I mean, even if it's just running a simple errand, you know, where you end up talking to the lady at the checkout counter for a few minutes, you know, maybe that could change the whole trajectory of your day.
Evan Brand: You know, they look at longevity research and relationships are huge, huge, huge things. So the isolation, like you could have a hundred percent organic food in your house. You could have the best air purifier, but you're all alone. Yep, and you're miserable and you're tired and you got no motivation and you just want to give up even though you've quote got It all you've got the biohacking tools and i've seen it I i've seen it probably some of the most miserable people i've ever worked with are people living in Mega three four five six ten million dollar houses and they have no one because they've isolated themselves completely The husband's going and making all the money great so she can be in this big house alone and she's miserable
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And these are things I think me and you both struggle from or anyone that works from home because you kind of wake up, you get into your routine, you get the kids off the school, um, and then you go to work and then it's late, you have a family dinner and then it's like, okay, now we're putting on a Netflix show.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I'm reading a book, right? There's my day. And it's, but I just stayed in my box all day. Right. And so those are things that everyone I think deals with. And that's where you gotta, you know, just really put that on your schedule. Yeah. You know, a date night or getting out of the home or going to the gym or even just getting out, like I had my gym right behind me over here.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: And so I get everything right here in my little, my little, uh, basement office. And so it's, it's easy for me to get in that bubble and it's the thing I got to keep in mind for myself.
Evan Brand: Yeah. All
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: right. Well,
Evan Brand: let's wrap it up. So hopefully you all see that there is the. The influence of what you're looking at what you're reading the people you're around or the lack of people you're around It's the gut piece.
Evan Brand: It's the histamine piece. It's the nutrient deficiency piece, which is massive It's the soil quality piece. It's the infection piece It's all of it. And so, we would love to help you. If you need help, we could do a functional medicine workup on you. We can get you to the root causes of these issues. If you're suffering from fatigue to the point where you can't get up flight of stairs without being short of breath, you crash after you exercise.
Evan Brand: You know, these are more extreme cases that exist and we see it daily. So, feel free to reach out. We'd be happy to help. We do consults everywhere. It's Dr. J. So, that's Dr. Justin Marchegiani. That's at JustinHealth. com. EvanBrand. com. JustinHealth. com. Or me, EvanBrand, EvanBrand. com is the website. You can reach out to us.
Evan Brand: We'll also put some links below. We have a couple of easy, low hanging fruit products like my Electrolytes are a bestseller. They're great. Uh, there's tons of different adaptogen products that we have that can help you to just give you that boost. First little oomph to get you off the couch to where you could reach out, you know, we hear this every week Oh, I've watched you for five years and I finally reached out It's like, you know where you could have been like progress wise if you would have reached out five years ago like it's cool I'm glad you're here now, but don't do that.
Evan Brand: So check out the links below and then if you need to reach out, let's do it Let's get some stuff done spend a little bit of money on it but It's, it's great. And we're going to double or triple your investment with the level of productivity you can achieve by optimizing your gut, your brain, your hormones, your neurotransmitters, your nutrient levels.
Evan Brand: This is the stuff that's really worth paying attention to now before you're 81, like my grandpa, still drinking chocolate milk and eating donuts and not performing well. Dr. Justin Marchegiani.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Excellent, man. You said it so good, man. I really appreciate it. Just take action. We went over a lot of little things here.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Just start with some simple stuff, even if it's the palliative stuff, or even if it's some of the root cause stuff. I mean, just to kind of highlight, we didn't really go specific in the labs, but we definitely recommend looking at gut stuff, looking at neurotransmitters via organic acids. Definitely recommend looking at cortisol rhythm type of things.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: and or just generalize sex hormones, uh, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, free and total for men. These are some good starting points. We didn't go into that. I just wanted to highlight that. And if you guys want to dive in deeper, Evan gave you his contact, evanbrand. com and Dr. J, myself, justinel. com. We are here to help y'all and you guys have a phenomenal day.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Evan, anything else? Evan Brand No, we're done. Take care, Awesome. Take care. Bye now. Evan Brand Bye bye.
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